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Very few of us here actually watched it live. Everyone I talked to walked away from that show knowing that Savage vs. Steamboat ruled and for the main event, well... Hogan slammed Andre! It really did feel anti-climactic live. Then you get your edition of PWI and they knew the match stunk and all the talk was on Savage-Steamboat. There are good Hogan matches worthy of praise. This isn't one of them. Memorable moment... bad match.

I am not on Twitter. Grimmas is just voicing his opinion. We can still have megathreads but ones with a clearer purpose. I hoped I made that clear!

Seriously, ask him about Cowboy Bob Ellis.

Most insignificant douche question ever.

I don't do star ratings either.

What's this? Will winning? I think that is you behind Ricky holding the belt. Brainbuster.... Vince Russo booked WCW.

Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar - The build to this match was all wrong. This should have been the David vs. Goliath match. Roman was the guy people were chanting for in last year's Rumble as a plea not to give Batista the win. This year, he was in the Batista role... being booed for something they perceived he did not deserve. This was supposed to be his coming out party in his hometown and the fans fucked it up. When Brock Lesnar had an expiring contract, most people wanted to watch this match to see the fans reaction. When he signed his contract earlier in the week, it actually left the outcome in doubt and made the match more appealing in the process. Everything about this match was near perfect. First, Reigns busts Brock open on his cheek in about 5 seconds. Brock carries him around, suplex and F5 in the first minute. Brock then takes over for punishment time. At first, it feels like the Cena Summerslam match, an entertaining squash but Reigns has some moments of hope... nasty back elbows to the bloody cheek, punches to the bloody cheek, and two clotheslines that fail to take Lesnar down. A third clothesline is ducked and the SUPLEX CITY BITCH beating continues. Lesnar is abusing him but since he has a big red spot on his cheek, Reigns focuses some forearms on the cut. Brock stops him but Reigns sees a small window that he is trying to exploit even if the effort is in vain. One of those forearms gives Brock a small cut on his lip. Now Brock tastes his own blood and starts kneeing Roman in the ribs and dishing out more suplexes. Brock's focus on the ribs and back deserves credit. This isn't just a random squash... this is a guy focusing on a body part with sadistic precision. The replays of those knee strikes are different from nearly every other replay where a guy comes off the top rope or does a dive to the floor. It's boxing knockout level replays and does more to show the brutality of wrestling than anything else. After getting knocked to the flooor, Brock takes too long for an attack and gets stopped by some Roman Reigns knees of his own. He follows this up with nasty knees and kicks to Brock's face and chest. Oh shit! Roman is making a comeback. Did Cena make a comeback ever in the Summerslam match? It doesn't feel like he ever had one hope spot. Roman looks to be gaining momentum but he kicks one too many times, Brock grabs his foot and murders him with a clothesline that leaves him lying helpless on the outside. Brock's mouth is a little more bloody and he starts kneeing Roman and gives him a standard suplex that throws him halfway across the ring. SupleXCity continues and an F5. It's over. Wait... no it isn't. I want to address an issue some people had with this match... Roman smiling at the punishment he was taking. Cena didn't smile. He couldn't. He had no hope. Roman could smile because he had obtained little victories that Cena couldn't. He bloodied the big man. He stopped him once or twice. Brock takes off his gloves and starts smacking Roman down. They show replays of the slaps. I remember when that huge mitt of Brock's covered Frank MIr's face. It felt real and those slaps looked real. Roman's victory was absorbing the punishment that others couldn't. Roman takes a third F5. He kicks out and did what the Undertaker couldn't do in a horrible match last year. he survived three F5s... little victories... reason to smile. Outside, Brock intends to end this and ram Roman into the ringpost. With nearly no hope left, Roman counters and rams Brock into the ringpost busting him open and leaving him a bloody mess in the main event of Wrestlemania. A small glimmer of hope becomes a wide gaping hole of opportunity. Brock has had his bell rung and barely beats a ten count to get inside. Roman hits the superman punch to the bloody face of Lesnar but he won't go down. A second one sends Brock to his knee. A third attempt is blocked but Reigns elbows his way to freedom and headbutts the shit out of Brock's bloody head, something that Michael Cole points out and that I thought would never be focused on in another WWE main event ever by an announcer. A third Superman punch finally sends the Beast to the mat and it feels like a huge victory, not one of the tiny ones he had been accumulating throughout the match. I have to point out the crowd is going batshit. It is like a ruckus NBA game where the home team was up by 20 with 7 minutes to go but then the other team goes on a 18-0 run to make it a one possession game. The crowd was celebrating the demise of Reigns earlier and now they are a mix of booing the inevitable outcome in their minds and cheering for the Beast to end the McMahon experiment once and for all. A spear doesn't keep Brock down and Roman can't even go for a pin attempt because Brock is immediately trying to climb the ropes to get back up but a second one keeps him down for a nearfall. What was once an impossibility is now very real. Roman can win and the whole crowd believes he will. A third spear... wait... Brock counters with an F5. Seth Rollins music... Money in the Bank Cash in. Smart move by Rollins to have two choices of who he can pin as we'll soon see. He knocks a dead to rights Roman out of the ring, curb stomps Brock once and sets up a final curb stomp to end Brock once and for all... but Brock counters!!! F5... but shit... Roman Reigns gives Brock another spear and saves Rollins. Curb stomp to Roman who gave his last amount of strength to the final spear. I know some people hate this ending but it was the best use of a Money in the Bank cash in to date. It saved a Brock Lesnar pinfall, the pin didn't hurt Reigns after surviving the war and the WWE didn't have Cena Version 2 as champion. Who knows where this horribly booked company will go from here? RAW didn't leave me optimistic. On rewatch, this was just as exciting, sadistic and intense (maybe more so) than the first time I watched it. Both guys were so smart in their strategy within the match and capitalized on little moments that turned the tide. Also, blood does matter and when used right can make a match even more special. I think this may be my favorite Mania match ever and have no problem going out on a limb here.... Five Stars.

Memories or thoughts of Cowboy Bob Ellis

I think from here on out after this week, we'll have a WWE TV Weekly thread instead of individual threads for RAW and SD! However, this week, we have the popular post Mania RAW and what looks like the return of profanity and BLOOD! Also, I want to check out Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus. Always loved that match up.

Shit, don't ever do that to me again!!!!!

For the record, we aren't opposed to big monolithic threads. WE created the megathread forum for a reason. We are creating a method where people don't have to sift through 6 pages of topics that don't interest them to find a topic that does interest them. Create a megathread of quotes!!! Cool. Create a megathread of silly shit in wrestling. Cool!!! create a thread on how much you hate Rusev! Cool!!! You are equating the idea of a "Comments that don't warrant a Response" thread with all megathreads. The Dave Meltzer thread is 130+ pages. Cool! People interested in Meltzer and his product know exactly where to go and have 130+ pages to read through. As for the main board right now, without the megathreads. I see several new topics today and I can look at the front page and decide from the topic title immediately if I want to open that topic or not. This bothers you. I am sorry you are bothered. If it starts to bother the mods and admins then we may change it in the future. However, as stated in one of my earlier posts. The Comments thread was never meant to be a potpourri free for all thread. It wasn't meant to generate discussion. It was meant to post shit that didn't fit anywhere else and not respond to. It failed and people failed to comply with the spirit of the thread. It's gone now. For everyone else, we may create some subforums to help people digest the content they prefer to talk about but nothing anytime soon. We are going to monitor the current situation for the time being.

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It's cool. We have heard your opinion but the thread isn't coming back anytime soon. There will be exceptions to every rule. In the GOAT threads, a discussion occasionally sparks a secondary discussion that we will split off. However, those will be the exceptions, not the rule.

I would take out Kane and put in Luke Harper or another workrate guy.. Other than that, I have no problem with this.

I have no problem with Daniel Bryan having hair matches as long as he wins them. Like Butch Reed's dog collar or Wahoo's strap match... the Hair match can be Bryan's go to match. Daniel "The Barber" Bryan.

Really... Lance Storm and Test were as over as Rusev doing the Anti Americans? Rene Dupree was more over than Rusev?

Everyone needs to check out this show. HUGE rebound after the last show!!!

The Headline game ruled. Johnny ran some by me before the game and I got exactly zero correct.

EDIT: The following post would fit perfectly in an already existing thread.... http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/11892-wcw-ongoing-thread/

After Round 2, Kris is reminding me of...

LOL! Kris getting dinged on the Goldberg list was like Daniel Bryan getting pinned in 18 seconds at Mania 28.

It wasn't about enjoying the discussion but getting to bed at a decent hour.