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[2004-10-01-CMLL] Atlantis & El Hijo del Santo & Negro Casas & Mistico vs Averno & Rey Bucanero & Tazan Boy & Ultimo Guerrero
Mistico was given a huge rub here by tagging with three bona fide legends, and Averno also got to play where the big boys play. Unfortunately, Televisa edited this match to be mostly about Santo and Mistico. To be fair, Mistico hit the spots he needed to hit (aside from slightly misjudging his final dive), but it would've benefited everyone if they'd shown the match in full. The best exchange in the entire bout was between Casas and Bucanero, and that would have wound up on the editing room floor if it hadn't been in the tercera. Monkey business from Televisa.
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French catch
I don't remember the ref being an issue in every match. I feel like it was more prominent in Delaporte's promotion. I can't remember the name of the tall ref who looks like a wrestler, but I wasn't a huge fan of him. By the time, Saulnier was a ref, business was pretty rough. The big guy played a prominent role in the 60s when business was still good.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Who do you like more, Patera or Graham?
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Bruno Sammartino vs. Superstar Billy Graham (WWWF, 9/17/77) This was another great Bruno vs. Graham match. Part of me wishes that Bruno had won the title back from Graham just so that we could have had a proper blow off to this feud. Graham is so good at stooging. I'm not a stooging guy for the most part. I'd rather watch a Thesz match over a Buddy Rogers match. However, I can appreciate the art of stooging when it's done well, and Graham was fantastic. These guys got so much mileage out of simple holds like a full nelson, test of strength, and a bear hug. That wouldn't impress me in a regular bout but when the heat is this molten, and the kick-punch stuff is so good, it's impossible to not have a dumb grin spread across everyone's face. For some reason, the ref was mic'ed in this bout, and boy did he talk. I guess most refs would sound the same if they were mic'ed, but it was as loud as the television commentators and provided a running commentary throughout the match. Just saying.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Bruno Sammartino vs. Superstar Billy Graham (WWWF, 8/1/77) This may be my favorite match in the Bruno/Superstar series. This was just a down and out fight. I'm not the biggest fan of special guest referees, but Gorllla was awesome here. I loved how they upped the ante so that Gorilla's presence was even more necessary than it was in the beginning. I also loved how they worked the finish. It may have been controversial and drawn "bullshit" chants, but if a ref's gonna do a blood stoppage, it helps to have your shirt covered in blood. There are still people in this world who think Superstar Billy Graham never bumped or sold. That's a wrong that needs to be righted. He was phenomenal in this bout. He couldn't have given any more. He's so good that a spot I would ordinary hate on the outside with Gorilla Monsoon had me marking like a punter in the crowd. One of the all-time great WWE brawls.
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Gran Cochisse, bad worker or just another guy?
G. Cochisse/Solar II/Impacto vs. Franco Columbo/Espectro de Ultratumba/Lemus II (EMLL 3/29/85) Cochisse did nothing of note in this trios undercard bout. To be fair, neither did anyone else, but I'm going to be strict here. If Cochisse had produced a fun exchange with someone, or matched up better with his chief opponent, Franco Columbo, then I'd be singing his praises. So, I'll go ahead and declare this the first bad Cochisse performance. It also happened to be the most boring lucha match I've seen in quite some time. 3-1.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Terry Funk vs. Pedro Morales (WWF, 1/11/86) I'm not particularly interested in this era of the WWF at the moment, but someone mentioned this match in a Funk thread and I thought I'd check it out. Really fun match. I love how Terry came to New York and was still able to be Terry, adlibbing like mad and doing the wildest shit he could get away with. He even takes a swipe at Gorilla at the commentary table, which is amusing.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Bruno Sammartino vs. Superstar Billy Graham (WWWF, 6/27/77) This is such a great match. If you want to start the art of the middle chapter in a feud, look no further than this match. Bruno whips Graham's ass in this match but only gets a piece of the Superstar. They do an amazing job of doing just enough to send the Garden into a frenzy without giving them the payoff. A wild finish sees Superstar escape by the skin of his teeth, and this feud is far from over. You can't beat late 70s WWWF. It was by far the most exciting time in WWE history.
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The Beginner's Guide To British Wrestling
Boy, I didn't hold back about the Royals, did I? I must have softened on them over the years as I don't have any negative opinions about them now.
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[2004-10-23-IWA-MS-8th Anniversary Show] AJ Styles vs CM Punk
I've gotta give Punk his due here. This was an excellent performance. It may be the Punk performance to date, at least in the matches I've seen. What impressed me most was that it was a great wrestling performance. Punk sometimes gets knocked for his technical ability, but he was excellent here. AJ is happy to follow Punk's lead, and the end result is one of the better indy matches in a while.
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RIP Terry Funk
This is so depressing
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The Beginner's Guide To British Wrestling
I ended up obtaining both matches, and they were in colour.
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[2004-10-15-ENESMA] L.A. Park vs El Dandy
This was everything I could have hoped for from a Dandy vs. Park match from this point in time. I'm not sure what I thought of it in the past, but I've sat through my fair share of Parka indy matches, and his disappointing CMLL run, since then, and this is far better than Park's match against Ultimo. In fact, I thought it was one of the highlights of the year until the finish. That was such a bad finish. It reeked of 2004 indy wrestling in general. It was so shitty it took the shine off the match to the point where I couldn't, in good faith, rank it among the best lucha matches of the year. It's too bad because I wanted to sing their praises and now I feel like the match is forgettable.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Bob Backlund vs. Don Muraco (WWF, 3/20/83) I've got nothing against Gorilla, but his commentary here wasn't nearly as good as solo VInce or Rudman and Graham. This ended better than it began which is never a bad thing. I really liked the beating Bob dished out. It was slow paced and felt like he was laying in the shots. You've got to hand it to Bob. For a guy whose gimmick was the technical stuff, he sure could throw a decent punch. I'm not sure why people are always on Muraco's ass about being boring. I have zero problems with Don Muraco. The finishing combo (which wasn't really a combo, but I'll call it one) was so badass. Bob's strength game was second to none.
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Gran Cochisse, bad worker or just another guy?
Gran Cochisse vs. Mocho Cota (EMLL, 12/07/84) It's impossible to tell from watching this footage whether it was a good match, but it does include a large part of the tercera and we can at least see that Cochisse was selling for Cota's offense. Some of the transitions were a bit iffy, but that was true for both men. Cota was by far the more dynamic of the two, but I didn't see Cochisse do anything that I would consider remotely bad. He fought exactly how you'd expect Gran Cochisse to fight and the result wasn't a surprise. 3-0.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Bob Backlund vs. Sgt. Slaughter (WWF, 2/14/81) This was a decent match, but I think I prefer Sarge as a face than chickenshit heel. In all of these matches, Backlund whips the shit out of Slaughter. I think Slaughter shows ass way too much in this feud. The best thing about the bout was Rudman losing his shit over Backlund trying to kill Slaughter, but I couldn't understand why Bob was so pissed. I get that he was upset that Slaughter ran away, but there was nothing Slaughter did that a million over heels haven't done to Backlund already, yet for some reason Bob just loses his shit. Everybody about Bob is weird. His selling and mannerisms are weird. The way he reacts to feuds is weird. His voice is weird. It's cool, but weird.
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Lucha catch-all thread
Cien Caras/Javier Cruz/Arandu vs. Herodes/Volador/Angel Azteca (Monterrey 1991) This was during the period where Pena had Herodes do that gimmick where he pretended to be crazy and wore a different gimmick to the ring each time. This time he was dressed as a surgeon. Folks say Herodes was past his prime at this time, and that may be true, but he was still capable of doing bullshit house show lucha. This was the type of match where you look for the potential in specific match-ups. There was a decent looking exchange between Javier Cruz and Volador, which had me thinking that might be an all right match, and a bunch of smoke and mirrors between Arandu and Azteca. Arandu is always fun, but a lot of it is the hair. Caras had some fun exchanges with Herodes, and Cruz was rocking it in general with his black glove, but I actually think if I had to choose one match-up I'd like to see, it might be Arandu vs. Herodes. I think that would be a ton of fun.
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Entrance Music
I love Homicide's theme.
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Gran Cochisse, bad worker or just another guy?
Gran Cochisse, Villano III y Rayo De Jalisco Jr. vs. Fishman, Mocho Cota y Tony Bennetto (EMLL, 11/30/84) This made the DVDVR set and with good reason. This was an excellent lead-in match to the following week's Cota vs. Cochisse hair match. The Cota vs. Cochisse segments were excellent. Cota bumped the way you'd expect him to, but Cochisse brought the gristle and grit. I had a hard time finding any fault in his performance here. He was an older guy who looked like a Mexican Wahoo McDaniel and was a tough, no-nonsense foil for the flamboyant Cota. He's clearly the dude from the Satanico match and not some bum. The rest of the guys chip in and make this a cracking bout. Cochisse is 2-0 so far.
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Lucha catch-all thread
Jose Luis Feliciano/Black Terry/Mr. Terror vs. Silver King/Asterisco/Centurion Negro (Monterrey 1991) Woo, Black Terry! And Jose Luis Feliciano too! This wasn't a particularly outstanding match, more of a scrap really, but a 1991 Black Terry match ain't nothing to sneeze at. He has a fun exchange with Centurion Negro, and later on he does a dive, which was something he was known for in his younger days.
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[2004-10-03-WWE-No Mercy] Big Show vs Kurt Angle
What the fuck has happened to Smackdown? I mean, seriously, who is booking this shit? Angle is booked to wrestle Big Show at No Mercy, so he uses a tranquillizer dart to knock Big Show out and shave his head. This is interpreted as "raping Big Show's dignity," which is an awful line. They work a crappy bout that has a restart, a throwback to the tranquillizer angle, and no redeeming factors whatsoever. There's no doubt in my mind that Eddie vs. Big Show would have been a better match, but he was stuck working against Luther Reigns. It's kind of sad watching Smackdown slide this far.
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OJ's WWWF/WWF thread
Bob Backlund vs. Don Muraco (WWF, 9/21/81) I felt like watching a Backlund vs Muraco match and this was the first one that came up in my search. I don't harbor any negative feelings towards Muraco as the last footage I saw of him was his work in Florida, which was fun stuff, and there's no way I'm getting my knickers in a twist over a WWF Texas Death Match. It's a no-DQ match. Get over it. Random thoughts watching this match... Bob Backlund knows how to fuck a motherfucker up. Is he the most dangerous babyface champion of all-time? I love how weird Backlund is. Every time he wrenched on a hold, he'd let out a "whoaaa" that served little to no purpose. I guess it may have pissed Muraco off. Vince was great at doing these solo calls, but I wonder what he really thought of the matches. It kind of sounded like this bout bored him, but he tried his best to sell it. I love this era where the Intercontinental champion is hellbent on challenging the World champion. I wish that was still a thing. I liked how the ref missed seeing Muraco's foot on the ropes during the finish, and how they didn't do a Dusty finish and overturn the ruling. Given how often the heels use the ropes to win, it's poetic justice when they have a legit foot on the rppes that the ref doesn't see. I enjoyed this non-classic match.
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Lucha catch-all thread
Cheers for that fellas. El Texano/Silver King/Centurion Negro vs. Mongol Chino/Scorpio Jr y Sr (Monterrey 1991) Roy mislabeled this as Texano, Silver King and El Dandy ;( This was a dull rudo-led bout. It seemed a waste to have wrestlers the calibre of Texano and Silver King work this sort of bout, but the crowd loved it and there were a few decent spots where the rudos got their comeuppance. Texano shone even in this sort of environment, and the fluffing about at the end between Centurion Negro and Mongol Chino was moderately entertaining. This felt like house show lucha, but it also felt like the most quintessential Monterrey bout yet.
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French catch
The Teddy Boys tag team were Adolphe Sevre and Robert Le Boulch. I'm fairly certain it's Sevre in the Aledo match.
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Lucha catch-all thread
Los Brazos vs. Pirata Morgan/El Satanico/Justiciero (Monterrey 1991) This was a fairly standard trios match. There were some cool moments where Satanico and Morgan teamed up to work the Brazos over, but Justiciero couldn't quite fill the MS-1 role. It seemed like Porky vs Pirata would be the main match up, but in the tercera it was Satanico doing the stooging. Satanico was pretty good in this overall. Better than Pirata, which surprised me going into the bout. He matched up with Brazo de Oro well, but overall this was Porky heavy and basically a subpar Brazos match.