Everything posted by Grimmas
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The Rulebook
Yeah... ECWA and RevPro should really be on a fourth tier, I will change that. Why not be able to move up? ECW moved up, ROH moved up.
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The Rulebook
Rules - The Initial Draft Here is my ideas for rules. I am completely up for modifying and improving them, but this can set a basis. Start Date: September 1, 1995 (September 1, 2016) Following the 1995 calendar, but post on the 2016 calendar. Pre-Draft: 1) You keep the owner and the announcers and other equivalent staff. 2) You get to keep three pieces of talent from the 1995 roster (4 pieces of talent for Tier A promotions). Tiers: 1) Promotions will be treated in blocks, by tiers Tier A: WWF, WCW, AJPW, NJPW Tier B: ECW, FMW, UWFi Tier C: SMW, USWA, M-Pro, Tier D: ECWA, RevPro The Draft: 1) Round #1 will start with a randomized list of the Tier A promotions, followed by Tier B, Tier C and Tier D. After round 1, each even number round will be randomized for all promotions and the odd rounds will be snaked from the previous round. 2) There will be three lists of talent to pick from: The USA list, the Japan list, and the Other list. If you are a USA promotion you can select from the USA or Other list, while if you are a Japan promotion, then you can pick from the Japan and Other list. 3) You only draft 5 talent that was not born in the country of the promotion you control. 4) Roster Size (Includes anyone draft-able ie managers) Tier A: 22-44 Tier B: 18-28 Tier C: 16-26 Tier D: 14-24 (Options to have larger rosters is available for indies big shows and Japan touring companies) 5) Once a pick is made, the person on the clock has 10 hours to pick. if they miss their 10 hours then the next person can pick and the person who missed their pick can insert their pick ASAP. 6) If you pick a tag team you forfeit your next pick. Although, feel free to pick only one member of a tag team. 7) Only Tier A promotions can select wrestlers with stars next to their name. (example Hogan is not going to M-Pro. The Talent and Booking: 1) Keep in mind who your owner is when booking (ie if Giant Baba is your owner, there is no run ins and all clean finishes) 2) Book the amount of shows that you want. If you are a promotion that runs TV, then one show a week is all you need. If you are a smaller indie you can run only a show a month if you want. 3) Try to post shows on the day they occur. Obviously life happens, but it's better to just say "Raw ran this date, nothing of note happened) then to fall weeks and months behind. 4) You can fire anyone at any time. However you can only sign one free agent (or book one for a show/tour) once every 24 hours. 5) If you are a touring company, you can add as many free agents for your tour that no one else can use or get them loaned to you from other companies. 6) If you are a Tier B, C or D promotion, you can add free agents for a mega show as long as they aren't booked out on tours. 7) Every few months there will be a rookie draft where only Tier C & D promotions can participate in. 8) You are limited to having only 35% of your roster consist of wrestlers not born in your home area. Stealing Talent: 1) Since it's the Monday Night Wars, the US promotions will have a stealing system. If a wrestler is not used on TV or PPV for an entire month by a Tier A promotion, then the other Tier A promotion can steal that talent. If that wrestler is not used again for another week the Tier B promotion can steal them. 2) Every month the Tier A & B promotions will rotate through one attempt to steal a talent (ie WCW one month, WWF next, and ECW the one after, followed by WCW again). The player can pick one talent from an equal sized or lower tiered promotion to steal. A die will determine if they are successful or not. If the talent you want to steal is on the same tier and is top 6 for that company, then the player selects one number between 1 and 12. Two dice are rolled if that number comes up, they get the talent. If the talent you want to steal any other talent then the player selects one number between 1 and 6. A die is rolled if that number comes up, they get the talent.
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Post in this thread, if you want to join the game
Currently, WWF: I Broke Bruno's Neck WCW: Scarlet-Left ECW: topropepodcast USWA: kevinmcfl SMW: Wahoos ECWA: Boon RevPro: Jesse Ewiak NJPW: SirEdger AJPW: lowblowpodast FMW: Grimmas UWFI: Elliott M-Pro: gordi Every other promotion around near that time is available.
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Post in this thread, if you want to join the game
There is a number of options if you want to join up for this game. From smaller indies who run monthly in the USA to bigger promotions in Japan in every style. Post here if you have interest in joining.
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The Project's General Discussion
Everybody's lists are in. I'm almost done the draft list, so we can start later this week. It looks like people are going to keep their promotions realistic, which is great. One rule I'm going to throw out there is that Terry Funk has a 4 month limit on keeping him in your promotion. Then you have to give him up to free agency, otherwise it seems wrong. FMW has no direction know, due to Onita leaving, so I have some figuring out to do. Probably going for a variety show with death matches, women, juniors, and strong style wrestling.
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Ryback & WWE part ways
What's wrong with that? I'm sure he knows some stuff about supplements, or at least would look like a good spokesman for them. Also, what do you know about his knowledge in self help? The guy could be very motivational and help people, why would you scoff at that when you know nothing about him? Maybe he would stink at those, but if he is considering them he must have some idea bout them.
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The WWE Global Cruiserweight show
How much of these guys have you seen outside of the Cruiserweight Classic? That is a pretty bold statement that just isn't true and I love both guys.It doesn't matter. I'm the audience that needs to be impressed and Sabre thus far has been awful and Gallagher has been great.And apparently Sabre has been told to work as a heel from management so that might work cause he's completely hateable. After seeing one match of these guys you can not say that one is a hundred times better than the other.
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The Project's General Discussion
I love it! That's exactly what I want to hear out of this project
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The Project's General Discussion
I am going to make certain wrestlers only draftable in certain tiers
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The Project's General Discussion
Road Warrior Animal is out with the same Lloyds deal.
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The Project's General Discussion
So.. all the protection lists are in. I'll work on draft list, but in the meantime... Everybody cool with the rules? Any ruling on joshi and shoot style? No pure promotions being controlled by humans for them, which means if any Japanese promotions wants to have a women's division (FMW already has one) or use shoot style guys, the talent is unlimited. Should maybe AJW and UWFI or RINGS be ghost promotions or let them be free agents ready to go anywhere? People on sabbatical like Warrior, Rick Rude, Hennig, Piper, Onita should they be undraftable or let them be drafted, but if they are injured they can't return till then?
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The Project's General Discussion
If he's anything like me, he might have made his protections with a plan in mind rather than just going for the four best workers or top stars. Well Hogan and Bret are the two I am most curious about where they end up. As for the game, FMW is in a weird spot, so its cool for me. Onita is on sabbatical and the new owner took over in May wanting to get away from death matches and focus on more sports entertainment. Really allows me to go in any direction.
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The Project's General Discussion
Saving Sid over Bret Hart seems insane to me....
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The Project's General Discussion
Perfect saves. Making list now, but if someone worked regularly in USA and Japan then they will be on the both list. We can discuss some individuals once I post the list if there is questionable choices.
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The Project's General Discussion
Injured, returns to in ring in November. Will be up in the draft, but injured from in ring till November. EDIT: What Scarleft-Left said. So, He's in ECW then? Hadn't debuted there yet, just left WCW due to being fired due to injury. Doesn't show up in ECW till October.
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The Project's General Discussion
Some have easier choices than others (mine was simple). The draft should be fascinating to see what people focus on.. Also to see where Hogan ends up (AJPW, NJPW, WCW, or WWF) or goes undrafted and just appears on big shows as a special attraction.
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The Project's General Discussion
Injured, returns to in ring in November. Will be up in the draft, but injured from in ring till November. EDIT: What Scarleft-Left said.
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The Project's General Discussion
Three for you Boon. 4 is only for AJPW, NJPW, WCW, and WWF. 3 for everybody else.
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The Project's General Discussion
By the way, FMW saves Hayabusa, Masato Tanaka, and The Gladiator!
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The Project's General Discussion
Quick people announce saves, quicker I can make draft list and the quicker we can draft. Which gives people more time to plan before September.
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The Project's General Discussion
Remember Giant Baba is still your boss!
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The Project's General Discussion
Kind of makes sense to me, I'm good with that if others are. I just think it follows your tiered system and with bigger companies, it is more likely to have four people stay around to keep foundations. My other question was... do I automatically save champions or do they have to count towards my 4? Champions are not automatic saves, just listed so people know what the promotion looked like at the time. You can save your champions and keep them going forward, or you can save none of them and have all vacant titles up to you. Although with AJPW, you would most likely save Misawa, Kobashi, Kawada and then either Akiyama and Taue. The only people you automatically keep are the owners and non-wrestlers listed first.
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The Project's General Discussion
Kind of makes sense to me, I'm good with that if others are.
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The Project's General Discussion
Draft could start Thursday? If i can get things done in time, so get in your saves. If anybody else wants to join (lots of Japan promotions from WAR, UWFI, WING, BJW, AJW, JWP, etc... are open). Let me know I will post their rosters.
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The Project's General Discussion
Here is a list of rosters with their owners, non-wrestlers and champions for people to make their list of people you are keeping that are exempt from the draft. I think we are going with three talents, unless we feel that number is wrong. Owners and non-wrestlers are kept with the promotion, while everybody else will be put into the draft, if they are not saved. Look at the rules for other info. Please point out an errors I might had made on this. World Wrestling Federation Owner: Vince McMahon Non-Wrestlers: Jim Ross, Dox Hendrix (Michael Hayes), Gorilla Monsoon, & Todd Pettengill WWF World Champion: Diesel WWF IC Champion: Shawn Michaels WWF World Tag Team Champions: Owen Hart & Yokozuna WWF Women's Champion: Bertha Faye Bret Hart The Undertaker Lex Luger Psycho Sid Razor Ramon Davey Boy Smith Jean Pierre Lafitte (Carl Ouelette) Dean Douglas 1-2-3 Kid Isaac Yankem DDS (Kane) Savio Vega Gooldust Bam Bam Bigelow Henry Godwinn Hakushi Bob Holly Waylon Mercy (Danny Spivey) Man Mountain Rock (Maxx Payne) Skip (Chris Candido) Kama (Godfather) King Kong Bundy Fatu Barry Horowitz Rad Radford (Louie Spicolli) Brooklyn Brawler Aldo Montoya (Justin Credible) Duke Droese Bob Backlund Marty Jannetty Hunter Hearst Helmsley Doink the Clown (Ray Apollo) Jacob & Eli Blu Smoking Gunns (Billy & Bart) Men on a Mission (King Mabel & Sir Mo) Alundra Blayze (Madusa) Paul Bearer Mr. Fuji Ted DiBiase Sunny World Championship Wrestling Owner: Ted Turner Non-Wrestlers: Eric Bischoff, Bobby Heenan, Steve McMichael, Gene Okerlund, Tony Schiavone, & Dusty Rhodes WCW World Champion: Hulk Hogan WCW United States Champion: Sting WCW World Tag Team Champions: Dick Slater & Bunkhouse Buck WCW Television Champion: The Renegade Ric Flair Randy Savage Arn Anderson Big Bubba Rogers The Giant (Big Show) Johnny B. Badd VK Wallstreet (Mike Rotunda) Brian Pillman Meng Paul Orndorff Cobra (Jeff Farmer) Sgt. Craig Pittman Alex Wright Diamond Dallas Page Jim Duggan Dean Malenko Eddie Guerrero Shark (John Tenta) Kevin Sullivan Kamala Scott Armstrong Dave Sullivan Mark Starr Disco Inferno Zoadiak (Brutus Beefcake) Joey Maggs Chris Kanyon Ice Train Nasty Boys (Jerry Saggs & Brian Knobbs) Harlem Heat (Booker T & Stevie Ray) American Males (Marcus Bagwell & Scotty Riggs) Blue Bloods (Steven Regal & Bobby Eaton) Barrio Brothers (Fidel Sierra & Ricky Santana) State Patrol (Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker & Lt. James Earl Wright) Jimmy Hart Sister Sherri Col. Robert Parker Maxx Muscle Kimberly All Japan Pro-Wrestling Owner: Giant Baba AJPW Triple Crown Champion: Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW Double Tag Team Champions: Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue AJPW Junior Heavyweight Champion: Dan Kroffat AJPW All-Asia Tag Team Champions: Jun Akiyama & Takao Omori Abdullah the Butcher Masa Fuchi Stan Hansen Kenta Kobashi The Patriot The Eagle (Jackie Fulton) Lacrosse (Jim Steele) Doug Furnas Giant Kimala II Tamon Honda Richard Slinger Johnny Ace Yoshinori Ogawa Jumbo Tsuruta Joel Deaton Mitsuo Momota Ryukaku Izumida Haruka Eigan Mighty Inoue Bobby Duncum Jr. Kentaro Shiga Masao Inoue Satoru Asako Tsuyoshi Kikuchi Maunkea Mossman The Fantastics (Tommy Rogers & Bobby Fulton) New Japan Pro-Wrestling Owner: Antonio Inoki IWGP Heavyweight Champion: Keiji Mutoh IWGP Tag Team Champions: Junji Hirata & Shinya Hashimoto IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion: Koji Kanemoto Riki Choshu Tadao Yasuda Masahiro Chono Kuniaki Kobayashi Shiro Koshinaka Hiroyoshi Tenzan Scott Norton Akira Nogami Takashi Iizuka Michiyoshi Ohara Tatsutoshi Goto Hiroshi Hase Hiro Saito Kengo Kimura Isamu Teranishi Yoshiaki Yatsu Akitoshi Saito Osamu Kido Yuji Nagata Jushin Liger Wild Pegasus Sabu Norio Honaga El Samurai Black Cat Shinjiro Ohtani Tatsuhito Takaiwa Gran Hamada Tokimitsu Ishizawa (Kendo Kashin) Hell Raisers (Hawk Warrior (Road Warrior Hawk) & Power Warrior (Kensuke Sasaki) Extreme Championship Wrestling Owner: Paul Heyman Non-Wrestlers: Joey Styles, Tod Gordon ECW World Champion: The Sandman ECW World Tag Team Champions: Raven & Stevie Richards ECW Television Champion: 2 Cold Scorpio Cactus Jack 911 Tommy Dreamer Hacy Myers JT Smith Ian Rotten Taz Bull Pain Dances with Dudley Big Dick dudley Dudley Dudley Mikey Whipwreck Tony Stetson Chad Austin Don E. Allen Rey Mysterio Jr. Psychosis Gangstas (New Jack & Mustpha Saed) Public Enemy (Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge) Steiner Brothers (Rick & Scott) Pitbulls (I & II) Eliminators (Perry Saturn & John Kronus) Jason Bill Alphonso Sign Guy Dudley Francine Beulah McGillicutty Frontier Martial-Arts Wrestling Owner: Shoichi Arai FMW World Brass Knuckles Heavyweight Champion: Hayabusa FMW Brass Knuckels Tag Team Champions: Lethal Weapon (Ricky Fuji & Hisakatsu Oya) Independent World Junior Heavyweight Champion: Vacant FMW Women's Champion: Megumi Kudo Mitsuhiro Matsunaga W*ING Kanemura Mr. Pogo the Gladiator (Mike Awesome) Super Leather Hido Horace Boulder Masato Tanaka Koji Nakagawa Hideki Hosaka Katsutoshi Niiyama Gosaku Goshogawara Tetsuhiro Kuroda Mach Hayato Shark Tsuchiya Bad Nurse Nakamura Miwa Saito Combat Toyoda Yukari Ishikura Yukie Nabeno Kaori Nakayama Smoky Mountain Wrestling Owner: Jim Cornette Non-Wrestlers: SMW Heavyweight Champion: Brad Armstrong SMW Tag Team Champions: Heavenly Bodies (Jimmy Del Ray & Tom Pritchard) Tommy Rich Buddy Landel Dirty White Boy Robert Gibson The Punisher (Bull Buchahan) Bobby Blaze Chris Michaels Boo Bradley (Balls Mahoney) Tracy Smothers Al Snow Brian Lee Flash Flanagan D-Lo Brown Headbangers (Mosh & Thrasher) Ron Wright Bob Armstrong United States Wrestling Association Owner: Jerry Jarrett Non-Wrestler: Cory Macklin USWA Unified World Heavyweight Champion: Jerry Lawler USWA Southern Heavyweight Champion: Billy Jack Haynes USWA World Tag Team Champions: PG-13 (JC Ice & Wolfie D) USWA Women's Champion: Miss Texas (Jacqueline) Bill Dundee Jesse James Armstrong Axl Rotten Doug Gilbert Terry Gordy King Cobra Spellbindger Gorgeous George III Pat Tanaka Steven Dunn The Gambler Steve Doll Tekno Team 2000 (Travis (Chad Fortune) & Troy (Erik Watts)) Brandon Baxter East Coast Wrestling Association Owner: Jim Kettner ECWA Heavyweight Champion: Lance Diamond (Simon Diamond) ECWA Tag Team Champions: Hollywood Hunks (Custom Made Man & Stunning Sean) ECWA Mid-Atlantic Champion: ??? Devon Storm Cheetah Master Ace Darling Kid Flash (Billy Kidman) Steve Corino Inferno Kid Glenn Osbourne Mr. Ooh La La Boogie Woogie Brown Johnny Blaze Bobby Piper The Bushwhackers (Luke & Butch) Revolution Pro Wrestling Owner: Ron Rivera Michinoku Pro-Wrestling Owner: Great Sasuke Jerry Lynn Gran Naniwa Super Delfin Dos Caras Hanzo Nakajima Wellington Wilkins Jr. Yone Genjin The Convict Masato Yakushiji Taka Michinoku Naohiro Hoshikawa Kato Kung Lee Tiger Mask IV Naohiro Hoshikawa Kendo Mascara Magica