Grimmas

We did do stats at the front of the ballot about if you participated during the 2006 vote, when you started watching, and what type of wrestling you considered for the list. Those will be easy to calculate. The other things like podcast hosts and stuff will be interesting too.

I really really do hate watching Inoki, like he fucking sucks, but can anyone really look in the mirror and say he wasn't "great"? This is a serious question at the heart of this. I don't think Inoki was great. He was super charismatic and a good draw and well protected by booking. When in the right setting could pull off a really good match. I don't see how he is great in the ring.

I'm putting Flair in the top 15, and I don't like Flair. Although I do enjoy watching his matches, so it's not like Dylan and Jumbo. I can't think of a wrestler I hate watching that I will be ranking. Although I can't think of a wrestler that is great that I hate watching.

It's not a list of favourites at all. I'm not putting Bret, Muraco in my top 3. There might be a rare person doing favourites, but people are trying to list the greatest ever. Our bias' are affecting rankings, of course, but that can't be help for any list ever.

Part of me enjoys old man Regal more than prime Regal.

The build to Roadblock in Toronto continues. What are they going to do to load up the card to make Steven a happy kid in attendance?

Just to let you know it's not abandoned. GWE has just taken over my free time. New show will be posted after WrestleMania with the reveal of what the four fingers mean.

I think post death is fair. Lots of great Tenryu, Kawada and Mutoh to come. Plus I like the Jamal run and today is pretty good with Akiyama as the star.

Is anyone else putting Waltman on the list? He's easily on mine anywhere from 50-90. He's just an amazing babyface with great offense, selling and hope spots. Add to that he was a great slimy heel too with some subtle offense changes to get that over. He had great tag and singles matches. You think the peak is short, but it was 5 years at minimum. Lots of good stuff post peak (96) too. His X-Pac run is really under rated, especially carrying a team with Kane.

Ok. I just want to get Waltman higher on more ballots than mine.

I'd include some modern action from time to time. Generally not your cup of tea but if you can stomach a random modern WWE or NJ match it could be fun. Parv wants to keep the name, so AJ focused. 1) Steven's Pick 2) Parv's Pick 3) Going forward (AJ & NOAH) 4) AJW Steven & Parv's pick will be AJ, NOAH or AJW.. or the rare Kawada in NJPW match. That's my vote. Lots of room for modern AJPW.

correct.

vs Bret vs Wellington w/ Razor vs Shawn/Diesel are 4.5 or higher If I really looked around there is probably a UWA or WAR or NJPW match that hit it. I think something in the X-Pac run would have (vs Tajiri or The Rock).

Wait.... LA PARK!! http://www.profightdb.com/wrestlers/l-a-park-645.html?prom_id=37

Wait wait wait wait, did Baba ever book LA Park or minis? AJPW only come on now. booo... misinterpreted. Well bring on the FAT!

Once the results are out, then there will be a thread so people can post their lists if they want too. Want to avoid spoilers for now.

Steven's pick!!!!! Bring on the fat, the minis and LA PARK!

Seconded. His Ambrose, Hero, Christian and Goludst matches all were awesome.

Waltman's Offense and Psychology might need to be higher. Plus only two great matches?

I've thought about this now, so... 1) Flair 2) Hansen 3) Misawa 4) Kawada 5) Tenryu 6) Funk 7) Jumbo 8) Liger 9) Bryan 10) Lawler Ted DiBiase will be 39th.

Triple H vs Booker T at Wrestlemania XIX will always be the gold standard for worst booked main events in company history. Triple H getting super racist for no real reason against a super hot Booker T, then beating him clean in the middle, killing Booker's chances of ever being a real main eventer wasn't just bad booking, it was an extremely shitty thing to do. Triple H would have to start using every bad stereotypical Samoan trope in the book, like right out of Roddy Piper circa 1985, for this to come close. It's worse than just beating Booker T cleanly after building the match with the race issue, which practically required him to lose just to pay off the storyline correctly. He beat Booker T cleanly after laying around for like 15 minutes before covering Booker T and not even allowing him to kick out when pretty much every match ever booked in history has the guy kick out a delayed pin...especially such a long delayed one. So essentially Booker T is portrayed as such an overmatched midcarder who the pedigree absolutely killed. I went back and re-watched that match a few years ago. If you forget about the build and forget that Triple H is who he is, it's a real good match. The pause before the pin is not that bad and makes sense in the context of the match. It's a really good like *** 1/2 match.

When he first arrived in TNA with the camera, I thought he was a top 5 worker in the world. Did all the little things right. He started to speed up too much in tags for me later on. Going through the candidates, sadly he has no shot.

By the way, we are at 8 ballots in the first day. Well done. Those who submitted, what did you think of the forum? Easy enough to navigate and vote in?

Second!

When you limit AJPW in the 90's to only 72 matches, things have to get cut.