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Elliott said: "Forgotten worker from the lost era of Joshi. I remembered being a big fan back in 00-02 when I was keeping up with the Joshi scene and watched a few matches recently and was happy to find that my memory of an awesome worker looks to be true. She's a crazy good athlete and a wicked bumper with a real charisma. Was great in garbagy brawls but could work the mat and throw out bombs with the best of them. Someone pretty high on my list of people to dive into for this project. On the short list for coolest name in wrestling history, but makes it impossible to search for her matches hahahaha! "

I said: "Was a huge break out star in CMLL, then NJPW, then NXT, then went to the WWE and it hurt him and now I can't wait to see what they do next. Has had some of the greatest matches in WWE history, as well as classics all over. A very clever worker who does things you don't expect, but completely makes sense. On the larger side, but can fly like anyone. Let's not forget his charisma! I guess it depends on the next five years, but a huge candidate!"

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1 eastern, we will be watching for our first watch party. If you don't want to voice chat in the discord, you can still watch the footage and use a regular old chat here: https://sync-tube.de/rooms/rLzjEAJga

start it.

That should be a thread on the main board! Very valuable!

People forget if you have a variable amount of people you can vote for my job gets harder

Yeah, every week we'll do about 2 hours on a particular candidate. We can change that in the future if need be, plus supplemental ones people can do whatever! You are in for a treat with Jaguar!

I trust I liked it at the time is all.

Why would you complain during the start of the match? We don't know the future at that point and know that it will be abandoned and be useless until the match ends.

I started my database of ranking matches over 7 stars in 2013, anything before that I discount. Memories are known faulty, known to change over time, and are not reliable in anyway. Having that database is cheat code against it.

It's all happening here on discord: https://discord.gg/2tqvKBK2WA The first one will be on Saturday (17th) at 1 eastern, for a couple of hours. Watching some Jaguar Yokota. Join us if you want, either voice, chat, or just listening on while on mute.

I so love this post. I'm going to have to really think about this to see where I stand this time, but a great basis to look at.

I fucking LOVE that match. Amazing performance by both.

Well no time machine, so we can't really show he'd be Angle. However, the matches I'd have to really go look them up. I don't keep notes on matches I don't like, so not sure which they are. It's usually arm work though, that goes absolutely nowhere.

So many of the first 15 minutes of his matches is completely useless and pointless to the rest of the match (not always but often). I think Flair is saved a lot from the era he was trained in, if Flair came around in 2000 he's be pretty identical to Angle (I think). Although Flair does have great instincts, which does help to limit the issues with the lack of thought.

I know I am not the only one who put Flair higher on their list then they truly wanted to, but felt some kind of obligation to put them at a certain level. Flair will not be top 10 for me this time. Flair is in the line of Race, Angle, etc... a great worker who leaps off the page and is loaded with great matches, but is not the smartest wrestler. No idea where I'll rank him, that's going to take a lot of thought.

I wish we could discuss more how someone performs in the match, then the quality of the match itself.

What's so awesome is that Satomura added to her case over the last 5 years and kind of seems undeniable at this point.

An upper half person for me in 2016, and they will most likely make my list again. To me, one of the greatest underneath wrestlers and the BEST at hope spots. Just love watching them as a face. As a heel also super impressive. Also they stayed good for a lot longer than we thought.

In the Charlotte match Trish proved she was on that level, just not got the opportunities to prove it until then. Most of her comeback was tags and such, the Charlotte was the real only big singles chance she got and BOY was it great. I love Trish, and Stacey is giving me the recs to watch. Her case is compelling and the ultimate great wrestler over greatest career candidate.

This is the thread for these type of posts now. Thank you. https://forums.prowrestlingonly.com/topic/52940-gwe-non-thread-worthy-comments/

vs Becky at Evolution (my fav show ever) in a Last Man Standing was insanely great! vs Ronda Rousey at Survivor Series 2018 is a great intense brawl vs Trish Stratus at SummerSlam 2019, biased because I was live and LOVE Trish, but a great current star vs legend match. vs Rhea Ripley at WrestleMania 36, the best match on the no crowd mania. They worked super stiff to make up for it. An impressive performance. Let me know if you need more, I could go on.

Lo Sombra/Andrade Was a huge break out star in CMLL, then NJPW, then NXT, then went to the WWE and it hurt him and now I can't wait to see what they do next. Has had some of the greatest matches in WWE history, as well as classics all over. A very clever worker who does things you don't expect, but completely makes sense. On the larger side, but can fly like anyone. Let's not forget his charisma! I guess it depends on the next five years, but a huge candidate! Recs: vs Atlantis (CMLL 2015-09-18) vs Johnny Gargano (NXT 2018-01-27) vs Aleister Black (NXT 2018-04-17)

Charlotte is really good and steps up her game in big situations. She gets a lot of shit due to her booking, but you can't hold that against her (well I can't). An amazing athlete who gets vicious and is a joy to watch. Since I'm out of touch on WWE I'll have to rewatch some things, but I am never disappointed in a Charlotte match (outside of who wins).