Grimmas

I wonder what happens when Kevin Dunn is gone.

I want to say Chris Jericho cut the first promo in that manner. "Because at unforgiven ... it's going to be ... hell in a cell!" It literally doesn't matter what the words are or who says them, the cookie cutterness is all we get from it. "Because at No Way Out ... it's going to be ... your last ride!" They do promos for sound bites in the video packages.

Getting really excited for Parv to drop 6 stars on Omega-Okada.

When wrestling twitter is filled with Dylan and Kris Zellner, I don't see how these statements make sense.

I don't like Seth Rollins or Omega, but how is Omega more of a WWE guy they want then Rollins? Very bizarre statement.

Comments on my first show? How is the format? TV will give details on the more storyline matches.

***** started in 1989 with Flair/Steamboat. ****** started in 2017 with Omega/Okada. 7 stars won't be until the 2045, so we can relax about that one.

I don't know how anyone could bash Omega-Okada, like Flair-Steamboat, this match added a whole new star to our star rating system.

Man... what is a 5 1/2 star match? Now I have to rerate my entire database?

Anthem just announced they are the official owners now and Dixie Carter has stepped down. Good times ahead?

Thank you! Some shit went down. You will find out the details on television. So far, scheduled to air is the title change and the main event trios match.

This!

What a beautiful first show. Very excited going forward, too bad Dos Caras didn't make Inoki tap though.

First CMLL show posted. Just results. Parts of that show will be recapped in more detail on the television in two days.

Super Viernes "Nuevos Comienzos" January 4, 1985 Arena Mexico Mexico City, Mexico Match 1: Tony Acre y Vulcano vs Kato Kung Lee y Moguro 1. * Kato Kung Lee pin Vulcano (4:55) * Moguro pin Tony Acre (5:02) 2. * Vulcano sub Kato Kung Lee (3:34) * Vulcano pin (3:39) 3. * Tony Acre pin Moguro (6:21) * Vulcano pin Kato Kung Lee (6:45) Winner: tecnicos (2/3) Match Time: 15:26 Match 2: El Solar y Super Astro y Ultraman vs Jerry Estrada y Espanto Jr. y Talisman 1. * El Solar sub Jerry Estrada (5:34) 2. * Talisman pin Super Astro (4:26) * Jerry Estrada pin Ultraman (4:27) 3. * Super Astro pin Jerry Estrada (8:32) Winner: tecnicos (1/3) Match Time: 18:33 Paco Alonso introduced the new CMLL talent coming over from UWA. First out came the tecnicos with Los Brazos and El Hijo del Santo getting the largest pops. El Canek was announced as being in Japan and could not attend tonight. They all shook Alonso's hand. Next was Los Villanos and Los Missioneros de la Muerte. Both trios refused to shake Alonso's hand. Negro Casas, Black Terry, Babe Face, and Blue Panther all refused to come to ringside to be introduced to the crowd. Match 3: Mexican National Light Heavyweight Title Match: Champion Valente Fernandez (w/ Gran Cochisse) vs Negro Casas (w/ Black Terry) 1. * Negro Casas pin Valente Fernandez (3:55) 2. * Valente Fernandez pin Negro Casas (5:45) 3. * Negro Casas sub Valente Fernandez (13:04) Winner: rudo (1/3) Match Time: 19:44 Note: Negro Casas is the new Mexican National Light Heavyweight Champion. Match 4: Los Brazos (Brazo de Oro y Brazo de Plata y El Brazo) vs Los Villanos (Villano III y Villano IV y Villano V) 1. * Villano III pin Brazo de Oro (6:25) 2. * Brazo de Plata pin Villano III (8:21) 3. * Villano IV pin El Brazo (8:21) * Brazo de Plata pin Villano V (10:17) * Brazo de Oro pin Villano IV (14:46) Winner: tecnicos (2/3) Match Time: 29:32 Match 5: The Main Event Cien Caras y Perro Aguayo y Sangre Chicano vs Los Infernales (El Satanico y MS-1 y Pirata Morgan) 1. * Pirata Morgan pin Sangre Chicano (9:01) * El Satanico DQ Perro Aguayo (9:22) 2. * Perro Aguayo DQ El Satanico (1:04) 3. * Sangre Chicano pin Pirata Morgan (13:15) * Perro Aguayo pin MS-1 (13:58) Winner: tecnicos (2/3) Match Time: 24:24

Without looking it up what were the best matches of 2014 or 2015? Can you rattle them off like we could for 89 or 92 or whatever? No, but in 2014-15 I watched thousands of matches, while in 89 and 92 there was few matches that were meant to be on that level. If 89/92 had monthly ppvs, and I had access to footage from every promotion all over the world at my fingertips, I would have trouble remembering too.

Come on the great matches of 2016 will match up nicely with the great matches of the 80s.

I don't know about this. I think there are moments people will/do talk about. Pipe Bomb promo. Cena-Lesnar. Rollins cash in at mania, etc... I think our interaction with younger fans is lower, so it's difficult to see.

I don't disagree at all, though I think the transition from the 70's to the 80's and the 90's to the 2000's was a lot smoother. Hate to see what it's gonna be like in the 2020's though. The way it is going tells me it is going to have even more big spots, big moves and more video game style wrestling. Smoother, or just less people had a platform?

I' m sure 70s fans felt the same way about 80s fans. 80s fans felt the same way about 90s fans, etc...

Boom Really good match. Satanico was amazing in this era working with the next generation. Very excited to get there, holy shit!

Currently doing that for PWO2000 and it's been awesome.

I really enjoyed this one and man am I ever getting pumped up for the Satanico vs Tarzan Boy match (that exists, right? Please say it does!!). This is a really cool version of Los Infernales with Buccanero being the pirate to replace Pirata Morgan and UG being great as always. I love their control segments. The whole match just is fun, especially the later dive sequence. *** 1/4

Failure

Don't have much to add on top of what Chad said. A pretty average trios match here. **