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They started with WWN Live which for 20 a month (or 12.75 a month if you buy a whole year at once) is better than buying individual EVOLVE shows. Of course you get SHINE and WWN Super Shows plus archives. I was debating on getting this, but today they added BEYOND and PWX! So I'm all in. Currently watching SHINE and the stream has been away better than EVOLVE's past ones. The first promo was buffering and the 3rd match buffered through, but everything else has been perfect. Plus I can watch on Roku, which is great. You can call me FloSteven, I'm in. I got the year deal, I do hope they add CMLL as rumoured or even ROH.

Does the Tokyo Dome have the best crowd of any building? Given that they haven't been able to sell out the venue this century and desperately hand out free tickets to random people on the street I'd find this doubtful. Will Melzer change his ratings formula? Nah, give it another 30 years. Do his (predominantly American) newsletter readers want to read that Japanese wrestling is better than US wrestling all the time? My guess would be not. I don't think it's true over the last decade either. I agree the Tokyo Dome is not good. However if you accept that, then maybe his argument works.

I might believe those if they were reversed... I am so out of touch with that type of fan now.

Those are some shitty ratings. No way Rollins-Owens was the best match of the show. I don't know how anybody could think the main event was worse than that and the trios opener. Plus it's on the same level as the tag match? Whatever, there is a reason I don't subscribe or follow Dave on twitter.

Here is fine.

That should be good. Make the Stampede roster.

Give me a few hours... I want to add some more free agents and add the rookies and stuff. I will post here when done.

Complete and utter bullshit. The exact same match in two different places are the exact same match. If he is saying the Tokyo Dome has the best crowd of any building and thus it would be a bit better, then maybe?

Its up there in my MOTY list right now. Incredibly great tag match.

User Actions Follow Dave Meltzer‏@davemeltzerWON Dave Meltzer Retweeted Paulie Dangerously. It's a lot tougher there because the standard is higher. A **** U.S. match would probably be ***1/4 at the Tokyo Dome.

I listened to this for the first time and it was a lot of fun! It was with the folks from CWF Mid-Atl and Freelance wrestling.

There is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much talent out there. It would be damn easy to raid the indies and Japan and be half and half within a year or so, after building them up through the system. 2 matches seem to be the goal though, so it won't happen.

We'll give USWA a day, and Stampede can pick thier roster tomorrow.

Of course we all want it entertaining. I just don't think the difference between something like Kane-Wyatt and Billie Kay-Emma is big. I think a company should strive to represent reality. Having more females can only help the company not look like just for men to watch. Also, saying women aren't as good as wrestlers is silly when we saw Joshi in the 80s/90s, we saw NXT last year.

You can take both Edge/Christian now if you want them both as a team.

Are you saying there isn't enough talent out there to split the show in half or that it shouldn't be a goal and women should just be treated like tag teams?

I finally listened to this podcast, because I was interested. I was hoping it would be a new thing to fall in love with. I turned it off, I got about 2 hours or 90 minutes into Slamboree 98 and they had talked about two different stories back and forth with no rhyme or reason and briefly mentioned the first match, before going back to one of those two stories. They brought up the arena and attendance twice, like they were starting to go through the show, only to ramble on again. The impressions weren't funny or well timed. I had enough. I was hoping this would be good, but damn this meandering around various topics with no focus is not for me. Calling this a deep dive seems like bullshit. Being long is not a deep dive. Where the Big Boys Play is a deep dive, this is just casually talking about bullshit and joking. The worst part, that put the end of it for me, was when they talked about the best of 7 series history and completely left out Koloff-TA. What kind of bullshit deep dive is this? Unsubscribed with disappointment.

Let's skip USWA for now, they can pick later.

With all of these, what is your freaking criteria? It's all over the place.

The problem is that is not there goal. Are you saying with all the women the WWE has one of their shows couldn't be half women? 4 matches on the show, there isn't 8-12 women talented enough to carry that? Charlotte, Becky, Bayley, Sasha, Alexa, Nikki, Asuka, Billie Kay, Ember Moon, and Nia Jax. done. Plus they have way more talent. If you are joe indie Veda Scott is as good a talent as any undercard male. Plus you do this, you get more future talent. The talent is out there though and it could be done. Instead the women are treated like a special attraction.

I saw you tweet this - asking why companies don't book them 50/50 essentially and it's an interesting thought. Do you mean the WWE, or everyone left outside of WWE at the moment? ROH taped their second Women of Honor TV special tonight (my bet - not earth shattering - is that this airs one of the weeks after Final Battle, or maybe that weekend). This will be the second all WoH TV shown on national syndication this year. I feel like this is worth noting because this is ground breaking in a way. The WWE has never done something like this. You go back to G.L.O.W., right? CZW does all women's shows sometimes too. FMW did some. Smash does it once a year. It's fine, but those are specials. However, why not do it all the time. 50/50? You have 8 matches, 4 men and 4 women. The talent is there. Just because there are currently enough women to put together a few matches on every show does not automatically make it a good idea for either business or the product. I'm not saying because there are the wrestlers, I'm saying because there is the talent. Last year the best thing about NXT was the women. They could had easily been a half and half promotion.

I saw you tweet this - asking why companies don't book them 50/50 essentially and it's an interesting thought. Do you mean the WWE, or everyone left outside of WWE at the moment? ROH taped their second Women of Honor TV special tonight (my bet - not earth shattering - is that this airs one of the weeks after Final Battle, or maybe that weekend). This will be the second all WoH TV shown on national syndication this year. I feel like this is worth noting because this is ground breaking in a way. The WWE has never done something like this. You go back to G.L.O.W., right? CZW does all women's shows sometimes too. FMW did some. Smash does it once a year. It's fine, but those are specials. However, why not do it all the time. 50/50? You have 8 matches, 4 men and 4 women. The talent is there.

Jimmy Hart not in is really the worst part.

I really think you could easily do a half women, half men promotion with a women's title, women's tag titles, men's title, and men's tag titles. The talent is out there, I don't know why you would have to treat the women like a cruiserweight or tag division special attraction in 2016.

I sent him a message on the 24th, so maybe give it till Tuesday?