Everything posted by Robert S
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The Decline of NXT - When? How? Why?
Including rival promoters not taking him serious enough / believing him went he said he had no interest in taking over territories.
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WWE TV 08/03 - 08/09 Giannis is a future back to back MVP
The white supremacist baybface is easy (DOA), fun-loving Nazi, maybe Baron Von Raschke? The happy-go-lucky rapist... face gay gimmicks often go that way (Danshoku Dino being the most extreme example coming to mind). Am I missing more obvious examples?
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[1990-02-25-NWA-Wrestle War '90] Ric Flair vs Lex Luger
The botch on the first try is not so bad itself. Yes, the spot looks a bit weird, but if Flair did not call the same spot instantly again, I would have forgotten it quickly. But yes, calling the same spot again directly after it was botched is a cardinal sin to me. If you absolutely want to do that spot, then come back to it a minute or two later.
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The Decline of NXT - When? How? Why?
On a first glance, the saying often has been that Vince has good eye for talent and knows how to get them over, but if you look at it in details, you can come up with a long list of stars that got to the star level in spite of their booking or what Vince saw in them, not because of it: - Austin is an obvious candidate - for the Rock it was obvious that they saw a lot in him, but his first run almost killed him - Cena was probably not that far away from getting released at the next spring cleaning - Foley was at first only brought in as yet-another-monster for the Undertaker - Jericho came in hot, but until the Unified title run (and even afterwards), he was (besides the hot program he had with Triple H in spring / early summer of 2000) not much further up the totem pole than he was in WCW - besides the world title run in 04, Benoit did about as much in WCW as he did in WWF/WWE (upper mid card guy who could be trusted to always have a good to great match) - Eddie came in as a package deal with the Radicals, apparently he was the one they were interested in the least (Benoit and Saturn were considered as the ones with the star potential; I forget about Malenko, but I assume they thought they could use him as cornerstone of the Lightheavyweight division, as the did for a short time) - ignoring how WWE slept on a lot of guys in the early 2000s, even when they eventually got them, they almost resented when they got over more then they expected them to (see Daniel Bryan's Yes-phase) - without the steroid scandal, Bret (and maybe even Shawn) would have never gotten the run he eventually had
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WWE TV 08/03 - 08/09 Giannis is a future back to back MVP
A "GCW Bloodsports" division or whatever could have worked, but instead, they turned it into a cartoon on the first episode (with strippers / scantily clad dancing girls, a hostile overtake by a syndicate, cinematic-like production, ridiculous patrons (including one dragged into the ring to get beat up), a bouncer standing in front of a fake underground bar, Shane f'n McMahon etc.). It is not salvagable anymore, they have destroyed any chance this had, it's just another cinematic wrestling thing that has been overdone to death since the one or two successes they had at Mania.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
Yes, I have got quite some SSL handshake errors in the last day or two as well.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
I guess there are multiple reasons for that: - The landscape of relevant mainstream promotions has been very stable since 2002 (mostly WWE, obviously). - WWE has changed surprisingly little in the way shows look; compare a Raw of 2002 with one today (okay, take a pre-COVID-19 one) and then watch a 1984 TV show. - In the same way (somewhat due to the first point), WWE has much slower in cycling talent than it has in the past. In the 80ies and 90ies, you can look at a card and can probably pin-point it to within a couple of months. Even three random matches would tell you the year. You have no prayer to do this with shows from the last two decades. - I suppose most of us here are guys in our 30ies and 40ies, who started watching in 80ies or 90ies. I am sure that there are psychological studies in that regards, as something new always leaves much deeper impressions than when it becomes routine (for example, I am working the same job for 12 years now, but the first four years seem at least as long as the other 8 years to me).
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4
Is BBC a common acronym? Because even on urbandictionary you have to go to the end of page two until you find a fitting result.
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WWE TV 07/20 - 07/26 Eye popping action
By European standards (even by current ones, I am not talking about cold war Warsaw pact countries), you would be hard pressed to find a left-wing/socialist president in US history.
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WWE TV 07/20 - 07/26 Eye popping action
That talk was definitely going around on varios message boards a couple of years ago, yes.
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WWE TV 07/13 - 07/19 Paul Verhoeven is now a visionary and really basic
Funny, I hear Laurel.
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Seeking Mid-South/UWF Help
Was Houston the way Paul Boesch was running it a Mid South town per se or was it an independent town that heavily featured Mid South wrestlers?
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WWE TV 07/13 - 07/19 Paul Verhoeven is now a visionary and really basic
The strange dichotomy always has been that while Vince likes to surround himself with yes-man, he always seems to heavily respect people who just are out-front with what they think, are confrontational.
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#SpeakingOut: Industry-wide sexual misconduct (assault/harrassment/grooming/etc) accusations and their repercussions
Stormy Daniels, did this happen in our lifetime? That really seems like ages (or ten scandals and a pandemic) ago. Not getting too political, but how do you end up with Donald Trump and Joe Biden as candidates for the most powerful job in the world? You would assume that both political sides could come up with much better candidates. I mean in theory you have 330 Mio. people to draw from (okay, considering the requirements of being a natural born citizen and 35 or older, this reduces that number to 100 to 150 Mio. people, but still). If one side would not be Donald Trump, I could see an argument that the two-party system enforces moderate-to-a-fault candidates, but with Trump being where he is, that cannot be the reason.
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The Cancellation of Jim Cornette
One or three "AEW/current wrestling is shit" rants may be fine and entertaining, but he is doing basically the same rant every week (or at least every time I tried to listen to him in the last couple of months).
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#SpeakingOut: Industry-wide sexual misconduct (assault/harrassment/grooming/etc) accusations and their repercussions
And how often did he say that he gives the "accuser" the "benefit of a doubt"?
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The Cancellation of Jim Cornette
I had the episode yesterday running in the background yesterday and called it quits after 2 h: - first half hour: political stuff - second half hour: arguing that there was hardly any abuse of women in the territory days as (1) there were enough rats around that let workers do whatever they wanted, (2) wrestlers who had to spend time to talk women into having sex were subject to ridicule in the lock room and (3) there were hardly any females around in the locker rooms, and many female wrestlers that were around that time were Moolah girls and Moolah protected them like a good pimp (he did not use that term, but basically that was what he was saying) does - full second hour: another review and rants about AEW If I ever try to listen to another Drive Through, then only with time stamps.
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#SpeakingOut: Industry-wide sexual misconduct (assault/harrassment/grooming/etc) accusations and their repercussions
Not commenting on the content but the form of this video is a bit, I don't know, tone deaf? If you want to do a public apology and come across sincere, I would not recommend using your promo voice. Also starting with "I'm Mike Quackenbush" and then go on about this has nothing to do with the fake world or pro wrestling storylines is also not the best idea.
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Is the empire crumbling before our eyes?
Nothing is gonna happen, as by that logic you would have to prosecute a dozen or so US governors (not to speak of the orange guy). I mean, yeah, technically they would be guilty, but which prosecutor would ever go after them?
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John Tenta-Koji Kitao infamous shoot
Bix and Kris Zellner went a bit into this in a recent episode of Between the Sheets. Tenta and Kitao had a match two days earlier (at the Tokyo Dome), and maybe there was something happening already then already. From what I got, (foreign talent?) booker (or co-booker? I would assume that Tenryu was the main guy) Great Kabuki told Tenta that he should try to provoke Kitao a bit (probably under the assumption that a mad Kitao would lead to some stiffer work or similar).
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WWE TV 06/15 - 06/23 Liv Morgan.
That logic is great: (1) don't test (2) on a positive test, do something How will you ever end up at (2), if you don't do (1) (unless someone gets a real bad case of COVID-19)?
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RIP Johnny Walker, aka Mr Wrestling II
On the darker side, he was a registered sex offender who was charged with the rape of a 15-year-old-girl when he was 18 himself (though looking at his offenders registration, he probably was "just" convicted of having intercourse with a minor, not rape).
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WWE TV 06/01 - 06/07 Hiding in my bunker to avoid the collapse of civilization
I suppose that was only true for Takeover shows that happened on the same weekend as main roster PPVs. Which is really a pity, as for Europeans like me, Saturday is a much more convenient time.