soup23
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Dundee vs. Lawler had this quality in most of their high profile matches. Also think you can definitely chalk up Shawn vs. Bret from Survivor Series 1997 due to the uneasy nature that match had even before the screwjob. Austin vs. Hart in 1997 -
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Disagree with this. Starrcade 1988 match vs. Luger starts with Flair being real nonchalant. He isn't really jacking with the fans and not all riled and craze like you expect. It may be the most stoic I have ever seen Flair look from his peak. Then Luger whips his ass for around 20 minutes with Flair hardly getting in any offense. Flair is reeling and realizing that Luger will not back down and he has underestimated his opponent and Flair is unable to wear down Luger enough to where his power moves will not be effective. Then Luger makes a cardinal mistake and Flair is FUCKING VICIOUS going after it. His demeanor is completely different from the beginning because his strategy has changed mid match and he knows this is his one opening. Luger of course makes his comeback but Flair was able to do just enough damage for Luger's leg to collapse and Flair to gain the victory with his feet on the ropes. This match told a great complete story to me and foreshadowed some things from Flair's face run of 1989.
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Just chiming in to say I really liked the Kubuki vs. Flair match a lot and had never seen it before. I also don't understand why Martel and Bret cant have a good match together.
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You hit the nail right on the head Loss with the discovery of new things and also for me the reanalysis of wrestling past. I have come to grips with my wrestling fan arc that I don't have to see everything new right now and can just focus to watch the stuff I want to watch. I have touted the yearbooks constantly but will do so again because while not all inclusive, I think they allow the viewer a more than fair representative of what was going on in wrestling for that given year and as a result you can make conclusions from the footage.
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After reading Loss' post, can I change my vote to Bret?
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Don't remember getting anything and will confirm with my mom to make sure my letter was not sent and this wasn't a case of the time I sold lemonade down our deserted street and she put money in the box while I wasn't looking. Really awesome promo by Hogan and he is firing on all cylinders around this time.
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Flair fairly easily wins for me. Bret's greatest matches are all timers but so all the nature boys. Everything else from longevity to more great matches with a wider variety of opponents swings in the favor of the Nature Boy. This thought is striking to me in this debate. I think the Flair vs. Luger Wrestlewar 1990 match is better than every match Bret Hart had except vs. Owen at Mania 10 and the two Stone Cold matches. I don't really know if it would be a top 20 Flair all time match for me and its certainly not usually talked about as one of his best all time matches.
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I like Caudle better than Parv but do greatly prefer the Tony/Ross pairing. Caudle with Dutch and in SMW in general I thought was very good.
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