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Kobashi was barely on the roster: he was making a comeback that year, and as I said never worked a singles match that year before going out for the year on the same card where Sasaki won the belt. So if we take Misawa as the only star on the roster. He's the one who put Morishima over. He'd tried to get other people over in the past in NOAH, each of whom also put Morishima over in either the chase or after he got the belt. NOAH was fucked. It really wasn't Misawa's fault that none of the fans bought anyone as being an Ace other than he and Kobashi. He kept trying from 1998 on to get someone else over as the Ace in both All Japan and NOAH. They all failed, except for Kobashi's one period of being healthy in NOAH. I agree. You could see the promotion losing steam as Misawa's reign progressed. Looking back it was a slow down hill slide from Misawa/Kawada at the Dome in 2005. Also, what was the time frame of Kobashi's cancer absence. Kobashi was out from July of 2006 to December of 2007.

I was just watching some of Morishima's run in ROH the other day. Sad stuff to hear about. Like Fantastic said, you really would have thought that Morishima would go to New Japan though this talent exchange that was going on now with NOAH and New Japan. I kinda wish his WWE dark matches would surface up online somehow.

People kicking out of finishers regularly. I remember a wrestler kicking out of a finisher was huge, now it happens every week.

Idk if this was posted before on the board but here is Lucha Undeground's tribute to Perro Aguayo Jr.

Rapper Plies got belly to belly suplexed by a crazy fan from the stage to the floor last night.

Looking forward to this show. I've always wondered how UWF ended ever since I got the Mid South set.

I've heard most of the these things from non wrestling fans but the last time I talked to someone who was a non wrestling fan was about Mayweather against Big Show. He said that wrestling was for f____. (Yeah, you could fill in the blank.) Also add Colin Cowherd to the stupid things non wrestling fans say as he said on air today, "I don't watch wrestling cause I like girl parts and stuff".

I thought Dylan was off base on the PTBN reaction show saying that Triple H made himself the star of the promotion but after last night, but I stand corrected. I genuinely hope Brock and Ronda is not the tag team match neither Triple H doing another program with Brock.

Vince's comments during a conference all today. I don't know what to make of this comment.. Does he actually believe this? If we believe that Vince is the micro manager that former employees say he is, then he absolutely believes what he is saying.

I get the feeling that Reigns will get the belt at Summerslam and will face Cena for the title at Mania next year. It would be the company's clone of Hogan vs Warrior. It's not a main event the fans would want but Vince probably thinks it would draw. Rousey/ Rock vs Stephanie and Triple H would be money if Dana White allows her to do it. As for Brock, I wouldn't be surprised Batista comes back after shooting the Bond film.

I listened to the show and even though I don't agree with Will's opinions on certain things in wrestling, I was shock how Aubery was caping up for the WWE has been booked and ran a couple times to the argument saying "Well, Will, you know it's fake right." Will said it beautifully when he said that this is entertainment that should make me suspend my disbelief and that's what it should be. If the "fake" argument holds weight, then the comic book industry wouldn't be alive, wrestling wouldn't alive, fiction books along with TV shows and movies wouldn't be alive today.

I'm anxious to listen to this show on my way home from work. From listening to other shows like Shake Them Ropes and Lapsed Fan to reading the reactions on this board, the Squared Circle Reddit and Twitter, Mania has been panned as either a great show or a really bad show.

Regal talked to Todd Phillips on the App last night about that. He said he was so nervous that night that he forgot the belt was upside down.

TV Azteca Baja California has the most saddening footage as a camera crew was ringside at the show. I WILL NOT post that footage cause of the nature of the scene. They transferred Perro to an stretcher in the hallway of the arena. This happened long enough that fans started to go into the hallway, thus they had to rush Perro Jr. to the ambulance. They showed closeups of Rey, who was horrified. Just a frightening scene and I advise people not to watch the TV Azteca footage.

Here is video of the entire match. I put the spoiler tab for people that don't want to watch. Also here is his last interview right before he went to the ring. My spanish is rough so I won't even try translate what he says out of respect.

This is so shocking to me cause I started watching recent stuff of his on the AAA YouTube channel ever since the Rey signing. When Konnan turned him over in the video, I saw some blood coming out of one of his eyes. Hopefully more information will come out cause the video above still doesn't show what really happened. RIP to him also prayers to his family and friends.

I've been a fan for a while. I like the post PPV Shows as well.

I legit thought that Stevie Ray and Booker T were not brothers either until I saw the 24 show on Booker T. I almost wished they put out a DVD set of him. Doesn't have to be the monster 3 DVD set but filling up 2 DVDs of his Global, WCW and WWE stuff wouldn't be hard task.

It's funny cause L&HH goes head to head against Raw and have beaten them before ratings wise. There were rumors that Thea Trinidad (former Rosita from TNA) would be on the show but I haven't seen pop up this season.

I really enjoyed the show on my drive to work this morning. I'm a fan a the reaction shows and I pretty much agreed with everything you guys said on the show. You guys made a great point about how ROH books their black wrestlers compared to WWE and TNA.

He was flying out of Detroit and the bad weather has him stuck there. Also, last PPV they had ACH come out with a Bullet Club shirt with the Young Bucks so it's not in the realm of possibility of throwing a random person with Anderson. Honestly, I would've took Anderson out of the match and had him on commentary and do an angle after the match.

Is Sinclair's budget that tight that they couldn't pay another guy to fill in for Doc Gallows?

I could see Moose getting a TV title run this year.

I don't have a problem with the statistics of what makes up the roster of WWE because I've kind of accepted that's going to be the numbers. However, the representation of non whites as top guys or even upper midcard guys might be the glaring problem in the WWE. Just thinking off the top of my head, they had Rey, Chavo, Shelton, Lashley, MVP, Booker T and Mark Henry on the same roster in the midcard or higher less than ten years ago. I don't see that diversity now in WWE with the talent they have now.

I just rewinded the live steam to watch it and all I was thinking was "Are they trying to piss off NBC Universal?" I know this is a big story and what Heyman said was true but WWE's American programming belongs to NBC Universal and I don't think this will go well if the heads will catch wind of this.