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With historians in other fields, being a historical curator is mostly what they do. They are focused on keeping records and seeing how old events relate to today's events in a historical sense. Dave does a really good job of that but he's being a daily reporter on top of being a historian which is tough. Matt Farmer is great historian of wrestling cause he doesn't have to pressures of covering what's going on WWE and UFC every single day.

Yeah, I think you have to give him a break on some of this footage stuff because of how much he works on in terms of current stuff with the newsletter and his MMA writing gigs.

I didn't think you were being a dick or anything. I just see this dynamic all the time as someone who kind of bridges the worlds of the tech-adept and the Luddites. There are a lot of people who don't see their computer, TV and phone all as one thing. And many of them probably don't care to. Yet we race ahead in tech discussions as if everyone is on the same page. It's interesting. To further your topic of interest, and bringing me around to realizing how strong a point you have, all these people saying "It's clunky to hook up my laptop, then I can't use it" shocked me. I have a set up where my full time monitor is my television. Mulitmedia Mac hooked up to that, wireless mouse, wireless keyboard. It all works great, and isn't all that expensive. Particularly to the guy looking to buy a 24" monitor rather than get a TV with an HDMI port. I'm the one that said that it was clunky to hookup my laptop to the TV and when I set up my MacBook to mirror the screen, I have to move TV to make room on the stand. It's a small thing but I'm not throwing a fit about it. But for me sometimes, I just want to use my laptop instead of my phone while I have something is going on the TV. Call me lazy or a short attention person or whatever but I do it like a lot of other people do it. Trust me, I can set up something similar to your set up easily but that's not what I want to do.

this is something i see all the time and it continues to amaze me. For a lot of people it has to do with the layout of their house/furniture, but I think for some it is genuinely just a mental block.Exactly. I have a converter for my laptop to HDMI cable and it works fine but it just looks clunky when I put it next to my tv in my apartment. Plus, sometimes I just don't want to open up the laptop to watch something after a long day. I recently set up a Plex server so I can stream matches that I have on my hard drive to my tv but also having the luxury to do stuff on laptop if I wanted to.

Just saw the Network's twitter that they are running a special that if you purchase the Network for a full year, you get a free Roku stick included. Now I feel stupid for buying one months ago where I could've got it for free.

I'm going to wait a month to see if the service is better than the Network. I took a glance through the website and their collection is huge. I wish this and Terra had a Roku app so my Roku can be what VCR was to me when I was a kid watching wrestling.

Plus the 1/4 Dome show will be available to stream at ¥999 aka $8.40 a month. Wonder if this hurts the Global Force PPV.

Heard about it but didn't see it. It's weird cause from the promos on Raw, New Day looks the parody version of the reality show called Preachers of LA mixed in with Kirk Franklin. EDIT: I just watched their debut on Smackdown and it wasn't bad. They just seem like happy babyfaces. Didn't really connect to the church stuff but we'll wait and see.

Hate to add on against Punk but Triple H was in Mayweather's corner in 2009 when Floyd fought Juan Manuel Marquez. Also I've seen Batista walk with Pacquiao in some of his fights. Punk has to chalk it up that Vince didn't want him to do it. Plain and simple.

The match that I saw in the Puerto Rico thread with Abdullah the Butcher vs Carlos Colon in Trinidad pops up in my mind cause of the near riot that happens at the end. I don't have to Lucha set but I will take a look at that match if it's posted online.

It was a great interview/2 hour rant for him to get everything off his chest. I knew that WWE looked like a toxic place to be in but hearing Punk say all of it really makes them look horrible. I'd be very surprised if the WWE doctor stays with the company but they'd prolly replace him with another person that did the same thing he did. I'm happy Punk got out of there. Edit: Do you think Vince addresses this on Austin's podcast?

I feel like a heel that was portrayed as a person like Adrian Broner would get mega heat. Have vignettes of a guy like that spending money ridiculously on strip clubs, cars and jewelry. Even rip up and flush $20 bills down the toilet cause he only carries hundreds. If you know the jackass personality of Adrian Broner, you know exactly what I'm talking.

The Run the Jewels albums work cause Killer Mike and El P are anarchists on the record and it's awesome. But there is some cleverness on there like the Gangsta Boo track on RTJ2 where she ups the vulgarity on both of them. People in wrestling can run a Tully vs Magnum feud but they have to modify it. Hell, they can run that angle with Tully slapping Baby Doll and Dusty coming out to defend her in 2014 with the stuff with Ray Rice going on. They would have to modify or get rid of Dusty saying "She's mine now!" but that line doesn't make or break the storyline.

Hip hop's roots are from the park jams and DJs rocking the local party like Kool Herc. It progressed into the MCs helping out with the DJs rock the party. Then the battle MCs came cause one guy thought he was better on the mic than the other that was doing it. You're right Parv, the battle is essential in hip hop but it progressed from the party days but nobody really battles like today unless you are a battle rapper. The misogyny in rap is something that we can't take away from it either but the misogyny wasn't one of the basic principles of the music genre in the 70s. It progressed from that, it reached a peak and now misogyny is getting less in the music (even though it's very there). Rick Ross got dropped from his Reebok deal for a rhyme talking about slipping a date rape drug in a girl's drink. It's not that fans are worried about gender politics in the music, it's that the people are getting smarter and growing up. Jay Z is my favorite and he said he wouldn't do another Big Pimpin type song again. You and Dylan are right cause the premise of wrestling of two people settling their differences in violence. But so is boxing and MMA. The thing with wrestling is that you can control every aspect of a storyline. Scripted TV shows have a basic premise of one person vs another person but it is layered in nuance and keeps up with the world. Why can't wrestling?

And supposedly Mauro Ranallo and Josh Barnett will be calling that plus it will be mostly matches from 2014.

I understand your thinking in terms of wrestling but times have changed. If you want wrestling to be like what your view is about hip hop then wrestling should be simple like it was in Mid South with Watts calling Cornette a sissy. But with Hip Hop for me as a fan, it makes sense when it speaks to me in terms of life stories and struggles ( not by the amount of women someone has slept with). If you boil hip hop to just that aspect, then you never get to know what it truly is. Current hip hop is not like it was in the 90s with gangsta music so why should wrestling have people cheering for USA vs Russia, men berating women and gay men being made fun of. With wrestling, times have changed and we need more nuances in the storyline and it needs to get more progressive. The best black character that WWE has had in recent time was Floyd Mayweather and he came as the baby face against Big Show. But fans turned on him cause he's rich, he's a natural asshole and he has a history of beating women.WWE only highlighted him being rich but fans weren't stupid. With a person like R-Truth or this New Day group, they are going to highlight every racial stereotype possible. Wrestling doesn't have to highlight everything to get a reaction, just get stories that are relevant and let certain things for the audience to judge whether you like them or not.

What about Bas Rutten? If you're gonna go that route with a MMA guy then get somebody who knows the Japanese culture and he would put over the Suzuki vs Sakuraba match big time.

So basically with the 15 year rule, everybody with a HOF ballot cancelled each other out in voting?

I'll bump this thread cause I listened to the show with Mike Sempervive and it was excellent. Just great content on the history of PPV and where the wrestling industry is going.

I just watched that clip and it definitely seems like Heyman was mixing up two stories cause even for him, it was hard to remember the details. Now to be fair, Kobashi worked a tag match at an FMW stadium show in 97 so it's not out of the realm of possibility that Kobashi could have came to ECW. And Tommy Dreamer worked at All Japan in 95 for a couple of tours. However, Heyman getting both Misawa and Kobashi seems like stretch.

I gotcha but it's hard to blame Brock for that run cause WWE hotshoted him so quickly to the top. I know it kind of turned me off personally because I was unfamiliar with him and it probably turned off a lot of casual fans also along with Austin and Rock leaving the company. So along with his run in 02-03, you have the following: His run in NJPW from 05-06 His UFC run from 06-2011 (with gaps of his illness) And his run on top WWE 2012 until now as a part timer. That is 3 runs as a wrestler and 4 runs all together at the top of the card. The less said about Brock's NJPW run the better. I think it's a moment in time everyone would like to forget. He only had 3-4 matches in NJPW anyway. No, I think we need to talk about it more because he became IWGP Champion first night in the promotion at the Tokyo Dome. Antonio and Simon Inoki brought him with a lot of hype and Brock didn't deliver. People that were following New Japan close at that time will tell you that Brock was a disappointment. The two dome show cards he was on was papered and Zack Arnold said that New Japan got to a point where they were selling tickets at 5 for 1 rates during that Simon Inoki time period for Dome shows. Brock couldn't even draw at Sumo Hall with Akebono, who was still a big name in Japan at the time.

I don't think Rovert warranted to a ban too but I don't make the rules and if he was warned numerous times then it's hard to argue. I read the link that Charles posted about the evidence of Rovert generalizing the board and it the post where he replied to me in the Dave thread about the Mark Henry/Big Show match. I got the feeling that he was trying to defend himself and Dave in the thread because the pile on effect does happen when you have a disagreement about certain workers. (I've seen it with Joe from VOW and others vs the rest of the board on some cases). And I replied to him saying that I probably have similar tastes in wrestling as he does but you have to accept that other people like different things and move on. Hell, Will said he should ban me for not liking Battlarts and someone said before that Bix liking Kane was a ban worthy offense but that's not going to happen cause wrestling is subjective. This with Rovert wasn't really the case though.

Add me to the camp that thinks that this is not a bad list all things considered. I might use this list to see some of the stuff I missed during my breaks from wrestling. Kinda disappointed I only saw two Eddie matches on that list though.

Rovert, I didn't say that I liked the match at all. I thought they had a bad match considering how they've been working the feud. I just thought that Mark was good in his role and Show was bad at his. For me, my tastes in wrestling is probably similar to your taste. I thought the Rusev and Sheamus match wasn't good but people here loved it. I just accept it as different strokes for different folks.

I'm starting to be in that same camp as you Bill. I can listen to Dave talk about the history of wrestling and MMA all day long but the matches he likes, I have to take him with a grain of salt. I was in step with Dave years ago when I subscribed to the newsletter but I've gotten older now and have to see things from all sides.