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*wink wink nudge nudge*

Joe was already a really strong promo in TNA by the time he finally got the title. The guys speaks real. He's a total 80's NWA call-back. Since it was mentionned (but I can't find where), yes, Roman Reigns "shooty-shooty" promo on RAW was absolutely Russo circa 2000 shit. "Vince did not smartened me up ?" is right up there with "What are they gonna do, improvise ?". And about guys having no real issue and just be happy to "make history" and "be part of the Universe", there's also this idea that if you get fired from WWE, you basically fall into poverty. Because these guys aren't super-athetes and superstars who wins a shitload of money. They just are WWE employee who are afraid to lose their job and who really aren't stars who can make money "in general". Hence the stupid Sami & KO stuff this week. It makes everybody so not important and actually pretty lame as people.

This. This. It was really cool to see his family. I have no idea who Shoemaker is, but he was basically useless, why would they even include him when you got Meltz & Laprade already ? Bullshit about WMIII (Hogan was shocked Andre didn't kick out of the legdrop, ya know) and chronology issues/WWE revisionism apart, I thought it was mostly really good. The end got me. I always find it fascinating when Vince almost looks like an actual human being. Flair's innuendo was pretty funny. It's too bad they didn't include the famous Beckett anecdote. Loved the Princess Bride stuff. Good stuff overall. The Beckett anecdote is basically fabricated. So were the WMIII anecdotes in this movie.

Ok. I know I sound like a broken record but. Why the FUCK aren't these two a top main event act TODAY ? Seriously, this is ridiculous. They have everything a pro-wrestling promotion would want from a top main event act.

This. It was really cool to see his family. I have no idea who Shoemaker is, but he was basically useless, why would they even include him when you got Meltz & Laprade already ? Bullshit about WMIII (Hogan was shocked Andre didn't kick out of the legdrop, ya know) and chronology issues/WWE revisionism apart, I thought it was mostly really good. The end got me. I always find it fascinating when Vince almost looks like an actual human being. Flair's innuendo was pretty funny. It's too bad they didn't include the famous Beckett anecdote. Loved the Princess Bride stuff. Good stuff overall.

Is this thread looping or what ? Yeah, I was very surprised when I learned he was from Quebec. Back then, I would have never guessed.

Same here. Oh yeah, this has become quite annoying. He doesn't comes off like a psychopath doing that, he comes off like a douchebag, which is not exactly what he's aiming at I think.

The Crash was by far the lesser show I've seen. Too much mindless spotfests. The lWo reunion was pretty funny. Damian 666 moves pretty well for a guy his age, and him working against his own son was unique. Pentagon vs Aries was pretty good, but Penta is a guy I feel never really puts it together in single and his selling is dubious at best, like when he comes back from a DVD on the apron without much damage at all. I felt like these guys were cruising a bit on that show.

Hauray & Carpentier were probably half the reason I became I fan (because really, sell me Beefcake squash matches & Volkoff vs Zukov as something exciting). I adored heel Guy Hauray, he was indeed awesome. To this day I still drop some of his lines around my father, who used to watch with me sometimes. His performance at Rumble 93 mocking Bob Backlund was Heenan-like. It's really too bad he quit after Mania 10, it was never the same after he left. Jean Brassard seemed like a nice guy but he was clueless (it's crazy to think they got him & Ray back now, although I admit I find it kinda cool).

Hum.... No, he's still annoying as fuck, he oversells everything. He acts like a 19 years old doing video games longplays on Youtube and overacting all the time to get more likes. The other guy (don't know his name) marking out is cool though.

Sorry about that ! I don't even think about it anymore, but I should have changed that pseudonym a long time ago when several people on the board still knew me by my actual name, there are less of them these days. Now it's a bit late to do that without confusing people I think... The oddest thing is that it actually has no connection whatsoever with *the* El-P.

Agreed.

He was probably quoting Christian. #wrestlingbubble But yeah, presented that way, totally agree. That's yet another case of Striker being way different. I can picture myself having a few beers with Matt Striker and talk shit about pro-wrestling, music and movies and have a good time. With Mauro, I'd just want him to shut up or roll my eyes.

You know hip-hop is a well past 40 years old culture and everyone listens to it, right ?

I thought that was cool, if only because Sakai was an old favourite of mine dating back to the Jd' days.

Okay, so it's not even Taker's debut in the Middle-East. Thanks.

"It was me Ronda ! It was me all along !" Hey. Could work.

The thing is, we're in 2018, not in 1988. Referring to pro-wrestling history as any other kind of pop-culture today is absolutely acceptable. The way you do it is what can be annoying or not. And really, Mauro's issues go way beyond that. The guy just won't shut the fuck up or settle the fuck down, ever. He makes TNA announcing circa 2003 seems like Gordon Solie.

In hindsight, yeah, but at the same time they were NOT calling the match, so we gotta factor that shit in. I still like Striker better because like you said, shit's hilarious, but you gotta wonder about paying for a service and actually not getting it. I dunno, for me having legit fun announcers to listen too often beats the hell out of guys who blandly or annoyingly call a match. I can remember to this day Eddie Carpentier & Guy Hauray calling some god awful match between SD Jones & Mike Sharpe at the garden and making fun out of the old, immobile referee and just being hilarious about everything. To me it's always been part of pro-wrestling. Like those WCW matches were Dusty Rhodes & Bobby Heenan were going insane. Ok, they weren't putting the matches over, but it was entertainning as fuck and I never got enough of this stuff. The one thing I'll remember from the Braun match at Mania will always be Christophe Agius (he's playing heel) basically shouting "Fuck him up ! Fuck him up !" at Cesaro when the kid got in the ring. I mean, I was tired as hell by then, but I died laughing. I'm pretty sure they aren't micromanaged and Vince has no idea what is happening in the French booth, and the fact they are funny as fuck is what makes me come back to watch these PPV too, even when they're really just saying shit for the sake or it (for the record, they don't do that only, they are actually a really great duo of announcers). This is something I always loved in my pro-wrestling and that the corporate environement (or the über serious stuff I hear in NJ in English or this week-end on the EVOLVE shows, which had awful announcing, for instance) really ruins for me. Maybe it's a French thing, I know that Roger Couderc always had the kinda tongue-in-cheek tone to his announcing in the days of classic french wrestling in the 50's and 60's.

Because it's two totally different things. Goldy's streak came in by beating JTTS every week on Nitro. It was a steady, conscious effort (past the faux-pas with McMichael at first) and was vital to Goldy's character. Sure, after a while he began to beat more names, but he was built as a squash-worker basically. Asuka's streak was that no-one could beat her in NXT, no challenger could take her and then no one on the main roster could take her down either. But it was not about squashing people, matches were always competitive. And it was only a part of her character, but not the entire character. Asuka was much more than her streak. For starters, she was a hell of a worker. And to deny she was over is, well, being in denial. She was over as fuck at Mania. I'd argue that Charlotte coming off her cold SD stint was the one was "wasn't that over", but she's such a great performer that it doesn't matter (add in the fabulous megastar intro she got too). Anyway the point is that of course it couldn't be the same as Goldy's streak. As far as Tatanka & Borga, the old 90's WWF fan in me is smiling, but honestly, this was a totally different era (so was Nitro, but it's still much closer in form to the current product). I don't remember when Tatanka being undeafeted began to really be a thing as part of his push, I do think it was important, although much more circumstancial. It's not like he was doing much after not getting the IC title from Michaels. Yes, Borga beating him seemed big at the time but really, when you look back at it, it was an angle to put Borga (and Yoko) over, Tatanka went nowhere after that point… Borga the Nazi didn't exactly set the world on fire at Survivor Series either after ending the streak. I doubt Asuka will suffer the same fate as Tatanka did, and Charlotte on the other hand looks like a big star again, which puts her on the way to a big match with Rousey, so really you can argue than yes, Asuka's streak was much more efficient.

Have Asuka come back doing a Great Muta-like gimmick, like she lost it and went insane, killing people left and right.

Come on, it was straight hilarious, not bad hilarious. Vamp was drunk, they were bullshiting around. I take this over any English WWE announcing team.

I don't think I've heard much of Striker in the WWE. And I'm a LU fan. Agreed. I really enjoy their duo in LU and it brings me back to the times wrestling announcers did not speak like robots and actually sounded like friends arguing at times too, which I always enjoy. There's something old-school, warm and familiar with the way they work together. I must say Striker was decent at the IMPACT vs LU show too and really carried the team, while Matthews was all over the place. (and I'm not biased against Matthews, it's the very first time I heard him. I know his rep is that he's awful).

Remember when Paige was brought up and immediately went from a punk destroyer to a vulnerable wilting flower. No one survives the call up. The Nia Jaxx match fucked Asuka big time.

Especially if you consider Taker's current shape. There's a reason they didn't go long at Mania, and Taker still looked old and washed up. So, against Rusev, you can already imagine what the match will look like. Well… I hope that doesn't mean we don't get a Naito match down the stretch.