El-P

You don't sound like a jerk. To me it sounds pretty much true, especially for the WWE. Hell, each year, WWE is doing the most hypocritical, tear-jearking PR bullshit of all with this Warrior Award. Warrior Award ? Do people even care about Warrior's declarations on gay people and shit over the years anymore ? Guess not. In any other legit business, this wouldn't fly for two seconds I'd hope.

Of course. But not all people in WWE act that way. Let's not excuse the perpetrators because they're just "part of the system". Yes, the system is fucked up at the top like I said. But so are pieces of shit like JBL and Demott, and they don't have any excuse.

WWE is basically a company run by sociopaths. I loved Dave answering the "Why do they lie about attendance number when they do a sold-out anyway ?" question by "Some people lie because they are just fucking liars !". I hope some day, someone just expose all the bullshit that takes place over there and that these people finally get theirs. The fact JBL is still employed is absolutely ridiculous.

Actually, it's already a FOUR days event. The HOF, then NXT, then Mania, then RAWafterMania. Seriously.

That's pretty much defining Yagi's career.

WCW Not listening to Prichard. Way too obnoxious and corporate minded in the interviews I've heard (with Corny for instance). And like Tony S. himself said, after two minutes, you know the guy is full of shit.

Justin Hawk Bradshaw was pretty much a Stan Hansen copycat, complete with the bullrope and hand gesture.

I wasn't sure how Joe would fit in the Ultimate X match, and yet he did. Another great one. This has to be one of the best series of matches ever in the US (or elsewhere). I wasn't aware of Joe's condition and it didn't show, he was as good as ever. The double muscle buster was a perfect payback spot, and the finish was exactly what it needed to be, with the right guy winning. And yet, Joe is still protected thanks to the gimmick. Great match, great booking.

This podcast is insane. In this weeks edition, Schiavone tells an hilarious story about Arn Anderson agenting Ron Reese as The Yetay. The he admits he has a tiny dick which is one reason he wouldn't do a threesome with Flair (who's got a huge one apparently) and a "party girl". Schiavone is a riot.

Into the void. As always.

Super fun match. Not everyday you see father/daugher tag tea against each other. These four made everything look so smooth and easy. Nope. LCO formed a new faction with Ohmukai & Fukawa, with some kind of fashion model gimmick of sorts. And since Fukawa was basically a JTTS at this point, sadly (despite being the second best worker in the company), Chama got all the big matches. I was not a fan of this angle, despite loving pretty much everyone involve (Ohmukai, not as much as the others).

You surprised ? Yes, it was better than last year's atrocity. But damn, the show went off a cliff completely after the mixed-tag. That HHH vs Rollins - Orton vs Bray - Pittbull concert never-ending tunnel of suck was unbearable. And then what came after was mosty "ok for what it was". Taker's post-match send-off was nice, the match was good until it got all sappy and fake-drama. The only legit really good matches were the women's four-way, the ladder clusterfuck, mostly thanks to the Hardy showing up which made it completely insane, and the mixed-tag which was fun bullshit. It was *better* than I expected, but I would not call it *good* by any strecht of the imagination. Mediocre, with some fun peak moments. First off, scrap those ten minutes recap before each match. We know what the fuck is happening. Mania is still a chore, mostly. This thread was tons of fun though.

Not really looking forward to Lesnar vs Reigns...

I wished the Undertaker had some kind of supernatural sendoff, but I guess this will do. Not a big fan of watching him overstaying his welcome the last few years, that match was just sad at points. I was a huge fan of Taker in the 90's, so I guess that's the last of my original favourites who goes into retirement. Well, he well deserves it. And I deserve to rest, it's 6:20 in the morning. It was fun. And not so fun. But mostly fun.

As good as a Taker match could be at this point, with the fine Reigns heeling up and working around Taker's limitations. But I was not feeling the whole pathetic "Sorry I love you" kinda stuff at the end. It should have ended with the mercy killing much earlier, after the chairshots. Some of it was just sad to watch. Taker just did a few matches too many.

Try two hours almost. It was two hours between the ending of the ladder match until Goldy vs Lesnar, right ?

Agreed and agreed. Except for the submission, I thought it looked cool. Ok, so the New Day announced the fake attendance number of the year.

Yes, but you're very tired and grumpy. Lesnar's matches have been nothing for the entire year and it was not different. Goldy's "novelty" had worn off. I thought this was okay. Not exactly what I'd call a particulary good hoss match. They really did the least. Cool entrance and cool moment for Naomi. The match was rushed as hell though. FUCK NO ! NOT THE FUCKING NEW DAY AGAIN ! KILL THIS SHOW ALREADY !

I'm not sharing the love for Goldy vs Lesnar. Yes, it was about what you'd expect. Yes, the first minute or so was fun bomb throwing. But then, basically the final two minutes of the usual WWE formula. Finisher, counter, finisher, kick-out, suplex-city yaddi yaddi yadda. What's the point ? It was fine for what it was. Nothing more. Pointless to me. Infinitely more whatchable than the last two hours of course.

It's Vader time ? Yeah, I'm kinda breaking down after that Bray vs Orton match. Who will deny me calling Orton the ultimate BLACK HOLE OF DOOM at this point ?

The shittiest Sid match ever. Litteraly.

No time for the Diva Revolution. Gotta have your 35 mn HHH snoozefest and that Orton vs Wyatt vomit inducing heatless match. Hey, maggots on the mat. This reminds me a of game show for kids we had in France in 1990 or so. And I was about to say how glad I was to be wrong after the Ladder Deletion... But after this point, it's like Taker vs Shane followed by another Taker vs Shane...

Someone behind must be so fucking confused about these last 5 posts. Pauvre El-P. Especially since I don't care about spoilers for this stuff. And yeah. It proves I'm dreaming. Nothing of this is happening.

I can't leave. Now that the show has taken a nosedive, this thread is reaching new hights of hilarity. I went to do the dishes for seemingly an eternity and the recap was still going on. I'm like in a dreamstate. I'm not sure anything past Stephy on a giant bike was real... That Wyatt song is playing for hours now. Orton is frozen on a space paradox. This match ain't happening yet, and it's already over.

And that cracked me up. And woke me up too. Now I have to watch the match. Fuuuuck. I don't know. With the length of this ramp, I'm not sure you're making it through this entrance. I thought about that the second I saw that ramp.