Everything posted by El-P
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Your Wrestling Pet Peeves/Utter Hatreds
Hum… I wonder what picture you looked at. Check it on Youtube. Only Jason Sensation (obviously, and he was the only amusing part of the whole deal) and Chyna weren't blackfaces. Looking at this today, it's downright appaling. And Triple H was so not good at comedy.
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Your Wrestling Pet Peeves/Utter Hatreds
Triple H doing a blackface. Hilarious. DX probably invented wrestling parodies BTW. That nWo Horsemen deal never happened. Neither did Stevie & Meanie doing stuff on ECW TV. DX invented everything great about the Attitude Era.
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Demolition
He's actually one of the worst (as in useless and boring) wrestler I can think of. Sucked in any incarnation (okay, Repo Man was funny, but it was all gimmick, it's not like he had any good matches), didn't bring anything to the tag teams he was a part of (except shouting "shut your stinking mouth" and stuff like this), could bring down any good worker (Dustin in WCW comes to mind, the Blacktop Bully matches sucked). At least Jim Neidhart played his limited part well. In the third version of Demolition, Crush was the "workhorse", for god's sake.
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Best Babyface Ever?
The South ? (and I say this only half-jockingly, I wonder if the RnR would have been just as over in New York)
- [1991-08-05-SWS] Genichiro Tenryu & Ashura Hara & Takashi Ishikawa vs Yoshiaki Yatsu & Haku & Shinichi Nakano
- [1991-08-09-SWS] Genichiro Tenryu & Ashura Hara vs Road Warriors
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Weirder career than Johnny Ace?
Indeed. Not to mention, having Jay-Z settle with him over the use of the Diamond Cutter hand gesture.
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McMyths
It's volontarily taking the shittiest bump for Diesel's powerbomb at Mania 11 to make him look bad. Yeah. Even to his best pal he was an asshole at points.
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Weirder career than Johnny Ace?
From where they started to their journey as Kodo Fuyuki's croonies to where they ended up, Jado & Gedo had one hell of a career arc.
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Hisakatsu Oya
Actually understanding that one makes me feel like a complete geek...
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Best Babyface Ever?
The two things Martel had over Steamboat to me, which are more Steamboat criticims than anything else : _although Steamboat is obviously an all-time great, at times, his über-registration of shots could get a little bit goofy if you're not in the right mood _those kinda shitty looking open hands "karate" chops are the kind of things you end up accepting because they're just part of Steamboat (like you accept Tenryu's enzuigiris), but if you're truly objective, they don't look very convincing at all, nor even good, actually Martel over Steamboat doesn't shock me at all at this point, unless you'e going for the… *gasp*.. Great Mat… ok, see where I'l going.
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Best Babyface Ever?
And the answers to the question are : Ricky Morton & Chigusa Nagayo.
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Best Babyface Ever?
Again, Rick Martel has said himself that his heart wasn't into it. That sounds like a pretty reasonnable reason to me. Actually that's why he came back in the late 90's, to end his career on a high note as he was motivated again by then.
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Hisakatsu Oya
Solid undercard SWS worker. Super solid upper midcard FMW worker. Has a few really really good singles match (against Hayabusa in 95). Totally underrated. Would be remembered much more fondly if he had worked in New Japan (or maybe not). But not really a top 100 contender.
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Best Babyface Ever?
Actually, Martel said before that his heart wasn't totally into wrestling anymore at this point, as he was going into real estate and making good money at it, which is why Vince never pushed the Model gimmick really hard. So, shitty booking I wouldn't say so. FWIW, I loved Martel as the Model. No great matches, but the gimmick was gold and Martel was excellent at it.
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McMyths
Not really surprising. History is written by winners. The Kliq won. But yeah, looking at his title history is pretty damn hilarious. _wins the IC title from Bulldog in late 92. Apart from the rapid switch with Jannetty, doesn't lose the belt, gets suspended or something and puts his pal Razor over at Mania X in the title match. _wins the tag titles with his pal Diesel. Doesn't lose the belts, which get vacated after Survivor Series 94 and the split between the two. _wins the IC title from Jarrett. Doesn't lose the belt because of "injury", belts goes to Douglas who gets jobbed out on the same show to his pal Razor. _wins the WWF title. switch with Kliq's friend Sid, then doesn't lose the belt because he "lost his smile". _wins the tag title with Austin. Doesn't lose the belt because of whatever reason I don't even remember, Foley takes Shawn's place. _wins the WWF title via Montreal screwjob, throws a fit before losing the belt to Austin, with Taker waiting backstage in case of bullshit.
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Shoots Review and Preview thread
And right I was. Decent interview, a lot more based on production and operations than wrestling, of course. Not a lot of good stories though, and a lot of "I don't remember the details" indeed.
- Chikayo Nagashima
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Your Wrestling Pet Peeves/Utter Hatreds
And you made mine. Didn't know France housed vampires. Damnit ! And I for one always tell my students to never use litteral translations. (so, you really can't use "you made my night" like you would with "you made my day" in English ?) (then again, I never enjoyed the sunrise)
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McMyths
I'm not sure Billy Gunn was actually ever over by himself. The only thing he did that ever got a reaction was say "suck it !". When he became "The One" and didn't have Road Dogg to do the intro routine anymore, he got about the same reaction as Rockabilly.
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Your Wrestling Pet Peeves/Utter Hatreds
You made my night, ah ah ah !
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McMyths
Well, Chyna actually helped HHH get over. Like DX did. And Foley. And Stephy….
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Big Show
God awful worker in WWECW. Truly god awful. And although he showed potential as a green guy in WCW, he gained weight and was already pretty bad when he showed up in WWF in 99 (god, those Kane matches…). I always thought the name was lame as hell too. The Big Show ? Really ? Nah. From what I've seen and considering the opportunities he got, the biggest underachievers of superheavies. Sure, the WWE booking never did him any favours, but still. Overrated guys like Bam Bam run circles around the big oaf.
- Best Spectacle Wrestlers
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Best TV Match Wrestlers
Arn Anderson. Shiro Koshinaka.