El-P
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What always bothered me is that they didn't seem to *fit* him. Always looked to be too short. But yeah, the designs were the best thing about RVD's entire act. -
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Gained appreciation much later when doing my WCW project. Never was a big fan of Simmons, but he was at his best here doing explosive power spots. And Butch Reed to structure the whole thing. Great look, great concept (especially when they were with Woman), cool theme. Reigned in the Steiners by beating the shit out of them (and by having Butch Reed keeping stuff together). It's a shame they split up when they did, they had a few good years still in them together I think. And maybe it would have prevented us from getting Harlem Heat.
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Greatest gaijin tag team ever working in Japan ? Kroffat was just fantastic and Furnas was perfectly suited to this setting. Awesome awesome team. They could still work circle around everybody in the WWF when they showed up pas their prime. Should have come up as heels though, as Kroffat was such a great prick.
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Del Ray was more spectacular than Lane for sure. Tremendous team again, just like the two versions of the MX it's hard to pick. It's ridiculous they were never given the belt somewhere between 93 and 95. I mean, even freaking MOM got the belt. The next version was basically the Body Donnas.
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Basically the new version of the MX, as Tom Pritchard was supposed to be brought in at one point instead of Lane, I believe. Too bad Lane retired because he got better as time went on. Superb old-school southern tag-team. The last one as a matter of fact.
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LCO. 'nuff said. Okay, maybe not. Short pants. Bloodletting. Mita the enforcer. Shimoda the bitch. Really good 90's style workers during teh first half of the decade, then turned old-school heel in 97 and became the greatest team ever, kicking the shit out of every girl in sight, making them bleed and liking it. Two tremendous workers on their own merits putting 2 and 2 together on how to give back some life to a struggling joshi scene. My favourite tag team ever ? Probably. In the span of two years and a half, pilled up some of the greatest brawl ever. And were already excellent before and quite good after their peak, although they tended to rely more and more on formula (working in GAEA will do that to you). And a great music theme to boot. Yeah, LCO.
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Execution matters to me, a lot, but in case of the Nasties, their sloppiness worked along their character. That doesn't mean I'll praise them for being sloppy though. If they were really good workers, they would project messy chaotic brawling, like the Samoans would. But yeah, it works allright in the end because it fits them.
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FMW's booking was insane at the time, as Fuyuki was doing his own version of Attitude era shit, but in a very Japanese way. And yet, Hayabusa and Gannosuke were at the top of their game so you had plenty of terrific matches happening. I could have done without the Kuroda push, as he was quite annoying indeed at times, but Fuyuki era FMW did deliver tons of good stuff in the ring, anal bomb matches & pornstars cameo notwithstanding.
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Yes. But the matches with Scorp & Bagwell were actually some of my favourites heel Nasties matches, mostly because Scorp was so awesome an opponent for them. It's odd. The Nasties are not what I'd call good workers at all individually, but they were a pretty decent team overall, and since I love tag team wrestling, I enjoy the whole of the Nasties much more than the sum of their parts.
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So, it must be the greatest thing ever (like the borderline racist Kamala gimmick). Snarky comments aside, yeah, Hawk selling the piledriver was annoying. But it's part of the act like Johnny said. You can't piledrive Hawk. Okay. You have to take it or leave it. It's a spot to pop the crowd. it's like Flair's figure four always getting reversed. It makes no sense. But it pops the crowds. But it doesn't come from nowhere and it's not Hawk shitting on his opponents offense. Hawk usually was the one transitionning to selling, often by hitting the post and taking the uge bump outside. Hawk sold. DId he sold like Ricky Morton ? Of course not, because it would have been ridiculous. But he sold.
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Through the 90's yearbooks : LCO (Mima Shimoda & Etsuko Mita) Dan Kroffat & Doug Furnas Heavenly Bodies (both versions) Doom
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I fucking love Marty. Maybe a tendency to love underdogs, beautiful losers and B-sides on my part. Was terrific in the Rockers, and was quite excellent as a single wrestler showing up during the 90's. He's the guy I always to see pushed more during that decade. Always showed up from nowhere and then vanished. And came back from nowhere, was still over and was still delivering teh goods, and went away. Hell, he was still fun when he showed up in WCW in 1998, doing jobs on Thunder. Yeah. At this point I'd rather watch a cool 1995 WWF Superstar Jannetty match than a post comeback Micheals self-conscious epic ("Sorry, I love you… bouhhhhhhh").
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Kevin Sullivan said it best "Someone should have smartened them up.". They really understood tag team psychology, but what a bunch of horrible workers otherwise. Sloppy, dangerous, boring as hell as heels (loooooong control segment chockfull of restholds), awkward (although that played into their favors actually). They had a few really good match and tons of shitty ones too. Worked much better as babyfaces or when someone would beat the shit out of them (that's why the Steiner match is still their best one, although neither team are particulary good, but it they meshed perfectly). Saggs was the workhorse.
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Hawk was actually the worker of the team. Yeah, he no-sold the piledriver. Okay. He still was the one who would bump and sell the most and had the best offense to boot.
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Blackwell ? Yep. Really good.
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If you believe Rick Martel, the old mofo was also hitting very hard in every match. But yeah, coming in with a *real* gameplan is something that not a whole lot of workers actually project efficiently. Bock was one of them. As opposed to Flair, for instance, whose gameplan was to pop the crowd with cool shit. (Ok, enough with the Flair crowd trolling already, I love them both anyway)
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Is Micheal Hayes still employed BTW ?