Everything posted by El-P
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Homogenization of wrestling styles
Call it the global WWE influence I guess. It's only logical. Less major promotions around the world, less place to learn different style.
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Shane Douglas
Douglas' stint in WCW in 2000 once he got hooked with Torrie Wilson was actually really solid and he made the most out of poor booking and awkward gimmick matches every time around. He was one of the saving graces of WCW TV for a short while. The Revolution stuff was awful, but it wasn't his fault. Yeah, big time Shane Douglas fan myself. Terrific babyface in 93 and great heel promo later on (before he went overboard at times especially in ECW and indies). Peaking in 95/96 and having a resurgence as a veteran-like worker in 99 (his last program in ECW) and 00. Interesting to hear Steve Austin giving him major props as a face worker and heel promo. Austin said that his only problem was that his heel work wasn't on par with his promos at the time, and that his babyface in-ring work was great but that he didn't had the great babyface promo ability.
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Shoots Review and Preview thread
Ah ah !! Riggs already did a long ass interview with Highspots a few years ago, and it dragged because of Highspots long drawn out style of interviewing. This one looks chockfull of sleaze stuff I don't want to get mental pictures of. Riggs is an interesting character though. SMW, WCW, ECW… Lot to talk about.
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Hunter Hearst Helmsley
Totally agree with what's been said above. I always enjoyed Hunter's 96/97 work the best. He was exactly where he belong then, and was efficient and quite good at it.
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The Steve Austin Show
Those Regal's episodes are great. Regal's got such a soft spoken voice and delivery, it's an oral pleasure to just listen to him talk. And I got a big kick out of him and Austin singing the first few verses of El Paso. Regal talking about his musical tastes over the years, from the british metal bands like Saxon to the ska revival, Northern Soul and going through the early rave period was pretty damn cool.
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Current WWE
Yep. Actually, the best parts are HHH sucking up to McMahon to the point of grabbing Brisco so McMahon could put his shit under his nose, and big steroid ass HHH not being able to hold on to old man Brisco. What a man.
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WWE Hall of Fame 2014
I'm surprised they inducted that youngster. Hey, a Royal Rumble 93 reference. We're so damn old.
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[1996-08-19-WCW-Nitro] Sting & Lex Luger vs Ric Flair & Arn Anderson
Great segment. Arn is the standout, but Sting holds up his end pretty well. McMichaels was actually pretty damn good too. I agree with Loss, the unlikely teaming was a great touch and made the whole nWo angle even better, and it's too bad it got forgotten. And damn, Woman in those mini-shorts was smoking at this time.
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Nick Patrick: Spotlight Hog
Saw hundreds of match with Nick Patrick, and he never bothered me. And he was great as a heel, and excellent promo too. Hebner's delayed dramatic counts did annoy the hell out of me though.
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[1996-08-19-WCW-Nitro] Dean Malenko vs Steven Regal
I've got to the point where I can't watch a Dean Malenko match without thinking he's ridiculously overrated. He's just dry as hell. It works well against some great opponents who fit his character as an opposition, like Rey Jr., but against Regal or Benoit, it's just great mechanics but not much substance to me. Malenko is the prototypical worker for the jerk-off-fests "clap-clap-clap ! This is awesome !" kinda matches that would follow in the years to come (basically all based on Eddie vs Dean in ECW). So yeah, some really smooth exchanges, but I don't give a shit even though Regal is heeling up. Bring back Finley already.
- WWE Hall of Fame 2014
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Will and Johnny Arguments
Will made my day. +
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WWE quirks, linguistic and otherwise
I miss that guy, anyone know why he left? He looked like Pittbul #1. At some point I thought he was gonna be involved in some angle.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
The one thing I agree with Martin is that I did notice the crowd wasn't chanting that loud once the plants started occupying the ring. Wait & see I guess.
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Current WWE
So, I watched *that* segment. Terrific angle. Quite efficient delivery from Stephy & Hunter. Great visual. Great way to put over the merchandise too. They totally lucked into this one much like with Austin at WM13. Now, of they don't put the title on Bryan at WM, they're fucking insane. The script should go : _Daniel Bryan pins HHH in 18 seconds. _Daniel Bryan beats Orton & Batista to win the World Title. _sell shitoads of Daniel Bryan merchandise. Easy. And *now*, I'm actually interested in watching WrestleMania.
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Is TNA the worst wrestling promotion in history?
So, they are still doing angles out of terrible Kane shit from the late 90's/early 00's ? Involving Abyss, who's been the worst garbage monster ever, an inept mix of third rate Mankind and second rate Kane with no charisma nor understanding of working. And Dixie Carter is not only the worst promoter ever at this point, but she's also a terrible performer from what I've seen. The promotion looks like they're on the verge of dying, they're like an out of date, bloated indy promotion without the cool indy workers. The mere idea that Jarrett even wanted to buy back into this is puzzling.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
I thought Cornette was happily living away from the drug of pro-wrestling. Well, maybe he's just helping out his friend for a while. But it really didn't work out very well last time around.
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What types of wrestling fans exist?
I totally am a Former Fan.
- [1996-08-19-WCW-Nitro] NWO Paid Announcement and Slim Jim commercial
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[1996-08-15-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXXIII] Ric Flair vs Hulk Hogan
This match pinpoints everything illogical about pro-wrestling clichés : all of a sudden, Hogan sells and bumps for the same Flair offense he mainly no-sold for years, all of a sudden Flair actually outsmarts Hulk Hogan in spots (the bite on the test of strenght), all of a sudden Flair misses his legdrop and doesn't reverse the figure four everybody and their sister had reversed for the last 15 years. The Hulk up was totally stupid, Hulk still hadn't totally figure out how to work heel efficiently. Him jawing up with a woman at ringside was nice. At points they looked confused and fumbled around because they didn't know how to make it work. SO yeah, not really a good match, but interesting. Cool post match though, with Sting and Flair shoving themselves around. Now that made sense.
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[1996-08-12-WCW-Nitro] Interview: Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall & Kevin Nash
Yeah, kinda half-ass promo, and Hogan shines more than the other two here. You can see he was already having a blast working heel at this point.
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[1996-08-10-WCW-Hog Wild] Hulk Hogan vs The Giant
I had not. I was gone. Amazing job.
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Shoots Review and Preview thread
Wonderful RF editing job as always, with the same sequence twice on the fucking trailer. How incompetent these guys can be ?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Watching his soot interview with Highspots a few years ago, he did seem like a deranged individual. What an awful awful human being. Will WWE show any Zumhofe match on the Network ?
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What was the "main event" of Beach Blast 92?
Steamboat vs Rude. For all the reasons mentionned already.