El-P
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Used and presented the right way, I still believe Severn could have been awesome. Dan Severn vs Tarzan Goto from the IWA Death Mtach Tournament for the NWA title remains one of my all time favourite match in term of pure fun. Plus Severn could have been good on the mic in a very menacing low-key character (his shoot interview is actually pretty awesome and shows how much character the guy really has). He just had to be directed the right way. -
Was there a reason to rob the people from the DWB vs Jerry Lawler and vs Buddy Landell that had been built for weeks on TV on SUnday Bloody Sunday 1995 ? The end result was rather lame (I won't spoil it for whoever doens't want to know what actually happened). So, in other news, Candido is out, Billy Black is in. I really liked Billy Black in Korakuen Hall in 1990 or so, I'm not sure about him in SMW yet. Candido had a nice stint there, the promotion will miss him. Eddie Gilbert is out, and actually is dead at this point (hasn't been mentionned on TV while it was in ECW, but Eddie was a much bigger part of ECW so it's understandable) and Al Snow is in. Snow looks good in the ring thus far, and cuts good promos too. To damn bad he's settled with a green Glen Jacobs playing Unabomb, which really was a proto-Kane without the mask or the outfit. You see Cornette is trying to make him his own Undertaker/Sid, but Jacobs just doesn't have much charisma.
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I agree with Loss, this match is probably my favourite TV match of the year too, and there hasn't been that much in the last 2 years on SMW TV (it's the major issue I have with the promotion at this point). Certainly the best Gangstas match I've seen, as New Jack looks pretty decent here. Tracey is excellent as the babyface in peril, he hasn't lost a step since he went single, and Scott looks better than I've ever seen him (not a big fan of the guy overall). Great run-in by Bullet Bob and great beatdown. And of course, yet another superb promo from Armstrong. I was tired of his feud with Cornette (although running through the entire promotion footage so quick does lead to burn outs that would maybe not happen normaly) but he's so damn good on the mic that he always finds a way to bring me back in to support him. Awesome line about the Good the Bad and the Ugly, yes, awesome line.
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New Jack Hustler motherfucka. Yeah, that video was all kinda offensive, as was Jack's promo.
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Totally agree. You have studied your Ric Flair well.
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In my personnal fantasy land, you have Jim Cornette showing up on Nitro somewhere in 2001 (instead of the death of WCW), shooting on the promotion right and left, burying Hogan, Bischoff, the nWo, Russo and the likes, and pretending he has the real world champion on his side and that the belt Goldberg is carrying around isn't the one dating back to 1905 or so. Then he shows up with Dan Severn wearing the NWA belt (don't tell me who was the actual champion at that time, I don't care, it's my fantasy world), and they have a big face-of with Goldy. They built Severn by having him throw and slap people around (unlike what they did in WWF, exposing him as "just another guy") and you get a huge title vs title match on PPV, which Severn wins when Ken Shamrock interferes and screws Goldy (ah ah, swerve). Severn is the Double Crown winner, Goldy feud with Shamrock in matches that involves blood, stiff kicks and cages while Severn defends his title against Big Poppa Pump in matche involving cool mat wrestling, suplexes and slapping around (and cheats to win, of course). Then we eventually get the big rematch and Goldy wins the Double Crown obviously. Shit, I would love my WCW.
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Ric Flair "booked" until mid-95, from what Loss said.
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Anyone thear want to get all pissy at the "Brett" spelling ? (oh, let's not get into wrestlers/actors analogy, it could get real ugly real quick )
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What is great about Buddy Landell is that he really comes off as a total mythomaniac. You know he ain't got no limo full of women in the back. He's a pretend Nature Boy and that's even more funny. God, DWG has really taken it rough from bith Lawler and Landell in this feud, I wonder why they didn't brought her back to slap them around a bit. Good, fun stuff.
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Most of his good matches in WCW add to his legend. Talking about 1998 since that's what I already watched in it's (near) entirety, the Savage match on PPV is very good, and considering both were past their prime and Savage had a shitty knee it was really as good as it could have been. Then Bret had two very good match with Luger on Nitro and at least one very good match with DDP too. I realize I'm not talking about "great" matches, but having very good matches post-prime is a positive to me, especially when you get that from guys like Luger at this point of his career. And he wasn't working with a lot of guys who were having great matches either. Savage vs DDP had better match together than against Bret, but to me Savage is better than Bret, plus at this point Savage was not as injured as he was in early 98. Add to that they were two guys who pre-planned everything together so it seems obvious they would work well together. Anyway, Bret had a quite good 1998 in the ring when you think about it, including a very good Flair match (which, considering Flair's level of work at this point plus the fact they really never clicked that well, is again a positive to me).
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I've grown up on Bret. i loved the guy. Still do like him a lot. But Flair in the 80's squashes Bret's body of work. Bret didn't had the opportunity to work in a favorable environment, but in a way he beneficiated from it (like Shawn did) because his best matche stand out that much more than Flair's. I would have loved to see Bret work in WCW in the early 90's and see how he would have compared to Arn, Windham, Eaton and such in the same setting. Then there are those "solid but disapointing" performances. I agree with Dan when he says A Flair TV match actually was more engaging and had more of a narrative than a short Bret TV match, and to me it also comes down to Flair's character, who was that much stronger (at least compared to babyface Bret). For instance Bret had matches on TV against Pritchard and Jimmy Del Ray in 1994/5 and they should/Could have been much more fun than they were considering the talent of his opponents. They were just solid but by-the-number wrestling match. I would guess Flair working any of these two, even in a short TV match would have gone the extra mile to make it look more special (as he was doing against pretty much anybody that was a good worker at one time). Then I can take into consideration the character, the promo ability and the presentation, and Flair wins easily too. Really, I like Bret a lot and think he was a great worker, but Flair has been so great for so long in so many territories, including after his prime (and really I was suprised how much I enjoyed the Vader match from Starrcade 93 and the Hogan match from GAB 94), that it's a no-brainer for me, has been for quite a long time now.
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I don't see how any of his pile of shit can be defended in any level. This is not entertaining, this is the lowest low for Hogan and WCW until that point. Hogan proceed to take a huge crap on Vader, Flair and even Arn Anderson in the post-match, which is the shitty icing on the rotten cake. Everything is an abortion here, the match, Hogan's work, Renegade, Jimmy Hart showing up, the masked men, the amazingly dumb finish. Seriously up there with the worst of the worst Russo has ever done. Fuck you Hogan.
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I think so too but I also think I am mixing it up with their match in Kuwait. You may be right. Kuwait it was.
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I have seen the South Africa match before I think.
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This is completely idiotic and not fun the slightest. I wonder if Dustin didn't get fired on purpose, his career was so dead at this point. He went from wrestling in the main event of the first Clash of 1994 to spending the next 14 months in the undercard against Jimmy Golden and now Barry Darsow (and not getting one big match against Arn or Terry Funk which would have been really cool). With the exception of the great Wargames match, to me this entire Studd Stable feud really killed my interest in Dustin and really damaged his status. Thankfully it's over. And yeah, this gimmick was so stupid on every level I'm surprised Russo didn't used it again. The Battle Royal spots was very dangerous, and this must have cost quite a bit of miney (damn, a freaking helicopter !). This has to be up there with the Junkyard Battle Royal.