El-P
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I'm underselling nothing, it's just not particulary good thus far. As far as "Never good ever happened on WCW after this", thanks for the laugh. This kind of excessive statement really deserves your pimping overall. Anyway, like I said, Terry Funk showing up should shake things up quite a bit, and I'm such a Funk mark that it could turn out great still (my memories of the WarGames match is that it was a fantastic fun match, I'm anxious to rewatch it). (having already done WCW 1998 like two years ago, there was still plenty of good stuff back then, although the booking was putrid, and things turned out really ugly in the Summer and with Nash at the helm, but really, 1998 TV up to June was more fun than 1994 has been thus far, much to my amazement. 1994 TV has been pretty disapointing thus far, despite having really strong PPV's) -
Slamboree was just another excellent PPV, with nothing bad on it and the lesser stuff like Dustin vs Buck & Austin vs Badd still being pretty good. Really enjoyed Larry Z. vs Regal (which I remembered that way) and Flair vs Windham (which I didn't remember being that good, finish aside). The Nasties vs Cac & Sullivan is a great brawl, and Vader vs Sting still spells MOTYC. I'm really surprised this isn't on the yearbook (or did I miss the thread ?), as although it's shorter than their previous epics, it also feels different and just as great for its lenght. As much as the TV wasn't very inspired at the time, the PPV's were tremendous quality.
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You replace big goof Maxx Payne with Kevin motherfucking Sullivan, and guess what happens ? A FUCKING AWESOME BRAWL !!!! Seriously, this is so much better than the Stampede match, it looks like guys kiiling each others and trying to survive. I quote Sullivan from his Youshoot interview when he half jokingly said "These guys weren't smartened up (...) They would make great truck drivers". Probably safer than the previous match too, as Cactus Jack crash on the table is nowhere near the nestea plunge from the ramp + shovel shot. Saggs had a badly injured shoulder coming in so it's a credit to him that he worked so hard. Loved the ending, which made sense with the Philly crowd, and loved the post match with Maxx Payne doing the only good thing he ever did in his entire stint, but that was one hell of a payback. Cactus looked like he had gone through a slaughter, and the Nasties selling for so long (well, Saggs wasn't exactly selling) really put over the brutality. Also, thank God Ventura was calling this one. It's too bad he was put aside by Bischoff, as he was so much better than Heenan. Can you just picture Ventura announcing during the early nWo days ? Anyway, great stuff.
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Oh yeah. Not as good as Bret Clarke, but pretty nice fuck up too. Seriously, how much money Bischoff pissed away for this guy ? I would have had him once a year for the main event at Starrcade, to make the thing special, but on every title match on every PPV's it was a huge waste of money.
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From memories this wasn't very good at all, and go figure, I really enjoyed it this time around. Even fat and with only one knee, Windham moves around like a panther at times. Flair was in Tenryu mode, not doing too much but stiff chops, but Windham I thought was actually still really damn good. I can picture at which point he reinjured it though. Once again, and for the third time in a row, Flair wins a match with a shitty looking finish. Maybe that was why Flair was better as a bitch who would always cheat, because he sure doesn't look like he could actually get a clean pin that would look any good. Anyway, I enjoyed this way more than I thought I would. Too bad Barry re-fucked his knee here, I would have loved to see him make a full comeback.
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Good fun match at Stampede, decent match at Slamboree, Jimmy Golden still looking dull and vastly uninteresting. Nope, doesn't work with me. Plus I'm really not a big fan of the fact Dustin really was playing Dusty Rhodes Jr. during that feud. He was such a fun worker before but to me here he's working like most of his spots are tributes to his father, including the gimmicks like the bull-rope. I guess it worked well for him since he already gained quite a bit of weight a la Windham, but to me Dustin was much more interesting in 1992. Terry Funk should make this better and much more, but we're not talking about Bunkhouse Buck anymore then.
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I really don't see this. The TV was decent at best, with not much happening, especially a very weak undercard and not much in term of good matches. The PPVs were good, but they give a distorted view of what the company was at that time. As far as the match goes, I thought it was mediocre. I'm sorry but Jimmy Golden brings nothing to the table except a few goofy facials and maneurisms. His punches and kicks are weak looking, he doesn't project violence at all to me. Brutal, yeah, but not in a good way at times. I thought this was plodding and not very well built at all, with a puzzling leg-work at the beginning. No blood, which hurts (and you can argue the buckets of blood really helped the visuals in the Stampede match)., just a few fun spots here and there. I'm not feeling this feud at all on rewatch, and only Terry Funk's post match beatdown makes things look better. My opinion of Jimmy Golden being a dull worker hasn't changed at all.
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Really well done, much better than the WWF would do at the same time until they got into the business of nostlagia and buying out wrestling's history and made the Hof a legit big time ceremony.
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Really good match with Regal doing great manneurisms and facials at the start. Larry's "You're not good enough!" was gold. The crowd is typical ECW hostile crowd, chanting "Bruno !" at Larry, which was funny. Cool matwork and exchange, some intense shot exchanges, excellent upset finish. Larry could clearly still go and was a great foil for Regal, as their psychologies and wrestling style worked really well together.
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This is most probably the very first occurence of an ECW chant on a major PPV. Hat guy in all its glory at ringside, ECW signs, fun to see. Yeah good short match, and it's too bad Tully didn't coma back in 1993 as he should have, because he obvioulsy still had a good deal in the tank. Funk is great. The announcing team sucked, talking about the past while it was obvious Terry Funk was as relevant as ever, and totally not selling the amazing fact that Terry was doing a freaking moonsault at his age. It's also obvious Funk was gonna be a regular. Funk dropping the elbow on Hat Guy's hat was ridiculous and insane.
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The Heavenly Bodies are gone, Dutch Mantell is gone, we get Bruiser Bedlam, Prince Kharis in the main event, a Sasuke/Muta clone, Well Dunn as the first opponent for the Seekers (not a good choice)... Yep, Bluegrass Brawl seemed to be the apex of the company, and things don't look so hot now, despite Candido & Lee vs Rock'n Roll which is the only thing I care about at this point. *sigh*
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Tell me Dutch Mantell is gonna come back !! Pleaaaaaaaase !!! I really enjoyed Dutch in Memphis, I really enjoyed Dutch in WCW in the early 90 although he was basically a JTTS, but man, did I became a massive Dutch Mantell fan in SMW. Seriously my favourite color guy ever now next to Ventura, and yes, his team with Caudle was the best in the US at that point. SMW won't be the same without Dirty Dutch.
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Agreed. If I want to synthetize everything I dislike about WWE style and presentation, my answer would be Randy Orton in a nutshell. He's the prototype of WWE cookie-cutter worker/look/production.
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Slamboree was really poorly built. An surprise opponent never work anyway, especially not for the World title. I can't even tell what is supposed to be the main event for this show. Flair is just killing time waiting for Hogan again. Good promo considerong he doesn't have much to say. I never thought I would say that, but I actually can't wait to see Hogan show up because the TV has rather boring, Flair booking didn't improved the TV product.
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Isn't that still Fifi ?
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Agreed. Magnum may have been a big star in JCP in the mid-80's, but I don't see that translating into corporate WCW with all the commitees and bookers. I see him having a nice upper mid-card career in WCW a la Windham or Steamboat at best and being phased out in the early to mid-90's, probably out of the business as an active worker when Hogan shows up with his followers. Doesn't change a thing for WCW in the long haul.
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As a sumo fan, these kind of matches are embarrasing. Yoko really was exposed too here as someone who, well, never did any sumo. The Akebono match made me die a little.
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For the first 2/3 I thought this was gonna be better than Stampede because of the better pacing and intensity, but they lost me with the last 1/3. The match stopped building after a while and they just got around repeating spots without much rythme or reasons, and showing legit actual signs of tireness and sloppiness, especially Flair. So, no, it's not better than the Stampede match. I thought the finish was lame and anticlimatic, as with a lot of Flair wins. The match sure isn't helped by the TV crowd who doesn't understand what these two were doing. What with all the kids wearing the same shirt ? They were dead. I disagree Steamboat wasn't over as we can regularly hear a "Steamboat" chant, that being said, it might have been piped in. So, great match for the two third, and not so great at the end, which makes it very good nonetheless. The post-match angle again shows how much I'm not buying Col. Parker as a big time manager, I don't care for his promo style nor his character. The difference with Paul E. back in 1992 or Cornette in SMW is striking. I'm not saying Fuller is bad (although he was much more fun as Robert Fuller), just that this character doesn't cut it with me on the upper card. Also, Heenan really isn't very good calling these kind of long wrestling match. Too much joky joky.
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Yeah, Steve Keirn wearing a golden sequined tux while resembling my grandfather wasn't great, but I suppose it gave Bobby Eaton something to do for a month or two. I don't remember much of them quality wise, how much cop were they as a team? The team sucked. When you have dull and uninteresting matches against Steamboat & Anderson, that says a lot. Eaton was on cruise control (why wouldn't he be ?) and Keirn was washed up and lazy, a new version of Jimmy Garvin (and I don't think much of Keirn even in his prime anyway). Just not a good deal for Eaton, who deserved better. Too bad Benoit didn't stick around in 93, as Eaton looked really motivated next to him.
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So, Low Ki is that indy guys who kicks very hard, think of himself as some kind of tough guy because he's got a low voice and he's a mark for kicking people really hard when they give their body to him, has done nothing in any major promotion and kickstarted (punintended) a wave of kickpad indy guys clone over the last decade. I mean, seriously ?
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Heenan was good at times, but he was way too much concerned with making jokes. It's a shame they got rid of Ventura, he was way way better on every level. (also, Heenan and Gene Okerlund getting shitload of money while guys like Austin and Pillman talking pay cuts is the beginning of the Bischoff era of spending for WWF glory days people instead of developping and paying your homegrown talent). The Worlwide production is one of the worst ever, another Bischoff brainfart. On the match itself, it felt rushed to me, and was kind of a sad ending to a pretty brutal feud. No wonder Cactus was pissed.
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After watching Rude for the last year and a half, I can't say I'll miss him that much on WCW rings. He just wasn't the same worker he was in 1992. I really wonder how good he would have been in 1999 if he had made his comeback. Still, pretty sad to see a career end on a really bad injury. The bump is awful.