El-P
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I fail to see how this is a great match. It's a good to very good TV match, with an exciting finishing stretch, but they didn't make it anything special. Austin vs Pillman on the main event was more exciting. But I understand it's the first match of the program, so it's understandable that Steamboat would pace it as such, and it shows he's a pretty great worker. That being said, I thought his matches with Regal in 1993 blows this one away, hell he even had a much better match than this against Orndorff. I feel like it has been way overrated because it's Austin and Steamboat. As far as the booking goes, Flair gets way too much credit from the "workrate fans" during this short period before Hulk comes in. Yes, it is nice to see Steamboat get a main event feud one last time, but did it build toward the future ? Not at all. On this show you had Pillman work a long, competitive match against Tex Slazenger in the opener, then challenge Regal from nowhere for the TV title. Pillman was feuding with his former partner Austin on the B-shows and then, whoop, got demoted to an undercard feud. Then Austin get to work a match with Steamboat but doesn't get the match against Flair at the PPV which should have happened. Instead, it's Steamboat's turn which makes no sense kayfabe wise since his last single title was a short TV title reign, and it's clear that, as he's getting the shot in storyline because he's friend with Flair, well, it's the same thing in actual reality. And this we get the first Hogan promo on WCW TV on the same show, already referring to Flair, it's also obvious Flair was killing time booking his friends on top waiting to have his big program with Hogan. Austin was never destined to go higher than he already was, and the impending arrival of Hogan garanteed that he wouldn't anyway.
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He didn't side with Sting, but he was basically an outcast in the nWo after an altercation with Bischoff, and was beaten down on Nitro after a match with Hogan. On the same card he got beat by Luger and Hogan prevented the nWo guys from helping him, so as a receit he fucked Hogan in the title match. Savage was kind of a tweener than would eventually turn babyface with Nash in nWo Wölfpack a few months down the road.
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He might have still been on Saturday Night at that point. I don't totally remember though. I know they started phasing him out of the television around the time he joined the nWo. He was announcing Saturday Night but just after Souled Out and the heel turn he was off and replaced by Scott Hudson & Mike Tenay.
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I think he did too.
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They really fucked up not giving Luger the title there. Luger was hot as hell for WCW, and had good matches. Sting vs Luger didn't draw nearly as well and Sting was nowhere near as good a worker as Luger at this time. All of this because, well, Flair wouldn't do the job. For all the nostalgic talk about Flair being this great guy victims of assholes during the nWo era, people forget a little quick that Flair was an asshole himself who did his share of unprofesisonnal stuff that hurt the promotion. This and leaving with the belt and without doing the job to Luger *again* a year later are the most obvious instances.
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Holy shit. There is no word. Lance Storm storping the rat tail, the zubaz pants and the fanny pack. Can't get much better than this. It's sooooo cheesy and mid 80's, but I agree it actually makes Storm comes off as sympathetic, which is no small feat, I don't think I've ever seen him smile as much as I did in this video. There are some genuinely funny moments, in a cheesy way of course. All of this reminds me the infamous "sport montage" video of South Park. Not one bit cutting edge but pretty damn hilarious and must-see.
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Del Ray channeling Dynamite Kansai was the best moment of this match. The thing I find a bit frustrating with SMW is that as much as the promos as great, you rarely get a match on TV that goes beyond the "pretty good TV match" level, even when the best workers are involved. Post-match beating is pretty sweet. Del Ray was one hell of a worker.
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Hulk Hogan's shadow is looming over WCW as early as February. Bobby Heenan says he's got a rumour about him, Gene dropped his name in the hotline. You can see the picture on the wall, and Flair actually wanted him to come too. More signs of Bischoff in power : Missy Hyatt gets fired (then of course still appears on TV because of the months in advance taoings), Jungle Jim Steele doing an Ultimate Warrior gimmick (hum...), Jesse Ventura not coming back on broadcast (Ventura buried Bischoff in his shoot interview, saying Eric used him to get into good favours then stopped using him), and DDP coming back with Kimberly (the swapping wives rumours won't go away, but I actually like DDP even at this point, his B-shows mini feud with Terry Taylor is fun).
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Fun match because as Dylan said, it's one rare occurence of Steamboat beating the shit out of someone, Vader of all people. I wish we had seen a little more of that Steamboat, as he's excellent in this mindset too. Vader is just as good selling a beating as he's delivering one, which is a feat for such a monster. I've got to say Harley Race is fun bumping, but that's really the only use I can think of for him as a manager, as he was always pretty bad on promos. Of course the Boss saves Steamboat from a 2 on 1 beating. Good stuff.
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From what I remember as I watched WCW 1998 some time ago, it was really all about "swerve", and no good reason was ever given, and really nothing came out of it. One of the most illogical and worthless nWo turn of the bunch, but they thought they that had to keep the angle "fresh" with new people at this point.
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Thanks, man. I wish I had all the TVs to comment on all what's on the yearbooks too. I'm watching WCW and SMW TV at the same time these days. I won't get back into ECW and FMW as I watched that a few years ago. I will surely keep on with WCW for a long stretch though.
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Well, there is that too.
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I'd say discounting the Wrestlecrap influence. This is how this stuff became kind of a cult joke. Anyway, it's pretty damn funny.
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I'm in Feb' 94, and honestly the whole Bullet Bob vs Cornette feud has overstayed its welcome with me. The highlights have been Murdoch's and Terry Funk's promos, but I'm really getting tired of this feud, with a hundred stipulations each time around. On 02.19 TV episode, a few WWF guys do promos for the Armstrong Family reunion show, and Lex Luger comes off AMAZINGLY disingenuous !
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The whole thing sucked. I always hated the special referee stipulation anyway, and this was no good. Comical effect of having the Boss counting out Vader while Tony explains it's a no DQ cage match. Then you have Vader distracting the Boss so that Harley Race can choke Flair from the outside. Nothing made sense, like Arn shaking the cage like he couldn't enter. Hey, there's no roof, you can at least try to climb it even if you can't get in because of the shape at the top. The finish sucked. All of this is basically an angle to transition to Vader bs Boss which sucks as a major PPV main event, this is stuff for TV. Only impressive stuff was Vder doing the Flair flip on the corner and landing on his feet on a moonsault. Otherwise, bad booking. This shit got ***1/2 for Meltz while the great Anderson vs Regal match got 1/2*. Yup.
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I thought it was a very good, all action 6 man tag with lot of heat. Of course the cage didn't play enough of a role, but they did take a few good bumps in it, and Pillman bled a little. Everyone was at least good, even Rude, with Austin and Pillman being the stand-outs. Excellent post-match attack on Sting by Rude. Really good stuff.
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Terrific match, Regal's best thus far in WCW, and maybe Arn's best single match ever. Great matwork, great storytelling on both parts, with Regal doing whatever he could do hang out to the title, and Arn first attacking the arm so he could get to the injured leg if that didn't work, it built in intensity while never putting aside selling, got the crowd in frenzy during an exciting last stretch, and the ending was great, surprising and infuriating (in a good way). Can't say anough good things about this match. MOTYC.
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There have been more absurd. Don't make people go looking for Resident Evil threads... Well, I said absurd, not stupid.
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This is the most absurd thread on a pro-wrestling board. Ever. And that says a lot.
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