El-P
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The action is very good, but it really goes nowhere, I mean literally. At one point past 20 minutes, it's like the match stops, the guys look very tired, especially Vader (even Ventura points it out), and it slowly dies down. That what happens when you book a match 10 minutes too long, even when great workers are involved. Arn Anderson just isn't a very compelling face in peril, and again it shows here, no matter how good he is. So, good action but not much in term of drama, and really the final hot tag that should have been epic just feels "there". Plus the non-ending is totally annoying. Dusty's booking was rotten at this point. -
After watching Tammy's lastest shoot interview, this segment is even more funny, of sorts, as she said that Margie girl had a actually pretty bad hygiene. Good stuff indeed. Really reminds me of a segment of an old frenct TV comedy show called Palace, with a rich obnoxious couple giving advice to poor people so they could "improve" their miserable life. I have the feeling Tammy's best stuff will indeed be during her SMW stint, which is a bit sad, but I'm looking forward to see the rest of those. She was getting really good really quick.
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I never was a big fan of their Starrcade match so I was surprised to enjoy this as much as I did. One very interesting spot here is Vader basically forcing Flair into a routine of his, and failing at it, which is ironic since Flair is the one supposedly foring people into his requisite spots : basically Vader powerslamed himself from the second rope, and although I always thought that spot was cliché here it really looked ridiculous and stupid, as Flair isn't a power guy to begin with. Anyway, the finish is yet another annoying Dusty finish, like having 3 of them on the previous PPV wasn't enough, and the promise of Flair teaming with Sid was shady to say the least since the stabbing in Europe already happened and Sid was probably gonna get fired at this point. The foreshadowing of Austin vs Flair is salivating, it's just sad they never pulled the trigger on it, I guess because Bischoff got power and scrapped it.
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It was a shitty crowd that was dead also for a very good Steamboat vs Eaton match earlier which had a reasonnably hot stretch to the finish. I agree Flair was really good at being an agressor, and Sid is actually at his best when he's doing the goofy bumping heel, since he's so brutal on offense. Sid had a better match with Sting at Fall Brawl, but Sting suits him better as he's got more spectacular offense that he can bump off of. You can feel Flair is trying to keep things moving, and instills quite a bit of intensity in the match, beating the shit out of the big wimpy Sid on occasion with chops, which Sid hates (he wouldn't take Benoit's in 1999). Decent match, and Flair can get all the credit for it. Fifi, how man Fifi... It was not a retroactive decision, I think it was taped before Fall Brawl. The plan was to get Vader vs Flair at the Clash then Sid turn face (this was the turn after the match) and have Sid vs Vader at Starrcade. So, the stabbing spared us a horrible babyface Sid reign in 1994, which would probably led to Sid vs Hogan redux. Picture the horror. I'll get to that point eventually, but yeah, Flair was working extra-hard with Rude and Sid and it showed. I thought he was disapointing early on his comeback, but he sure showed me some good stuff with way inferior opponents.
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Maybe it comes from the fact Eddie Carpentier used to put him over big time when I got into wrestling, but I always loved Valentine. The look, the robes, the stiffness, the deliberate style, the elbow drops, the face bump. My idea of what a classic wrestler would look like (along with guys like Flair, Anderson and such). His series with Santana in the 80's is tons of fun. He had some great matches with Backlund too. He's a guy I certainly wish I would see more, as I never get tired of him. Even his WCW stints when he was way past his prime in the 90's I find enjoyable. Big time Greg Valentine fan.
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It can be new to someone who ignored it, but it can't be news. Right. 2020 : Nobuhiko Takada revival.
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Let me see. I remember ordering my first puro tapes in late 1998. I'd say October/November 1998. Maybe the argument was taking shape at the same time I was getting into puro, so as a newbie, to me it was gonna be new anyway and I wouldn't see the difference between a consensus opinion that had 10 years of history and the brand new consensus opinion that had two months of history and getting stronger by the months. I remember Jumbo vs Funk and Jumbo vs Mil, I'd say it was in 2000 or so. I think so because I used to print those damn DVDVR to read them on the train to Paris back then. I can picture myself reading about Jumbo vs Mil in the TGV for some reasons.
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RIP to a damn fine hand. Oh fuck, this is terrible news !
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I had very few responsibilities back then The same. (man, I gave so much money to Lorefice and Lynch between 1998 and 2003. If only I had known about the FUCKING INTERNET 2.0 COMING SOON back then, I would have waited a few years)
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One thing : who the fuck are "we" ? I warmed up to Choshu and Fujinami ten years ago when I began to watch shitloads of NJ TV. I guess my tastes are dated as far as Takada goes but are pretty well advanced as far as Fuji and Choshu go then. I know people love to feel like they belong together in some sort of "rightful group of thoughts", but in the end this just doesn't concern me. The appearance and disapearance of new consensus is interesting only in term of the historiography of the GOAT discussions. Maybe my 98 memory alludes to The Other Arena (I don't think I stumble onto it that early though, as I was aware of DVDVR before tOA), but what the heck, if just a few people made good arguments for Jumbo back in the days, that was enough for me to say he was considered as a GOAT. Was it a consensus ? Maybe not, but the idea was already there.