Everything posted by El-P
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Great promo, terrible announcer
I don't know if he was a great promo, but Blackjack Mulligan sure was unbearable doing color leading to Slamboree 93. Mulligan/Bischoff = horrible combo.
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WCW ongoing thread
I had no idea the Blackharts worked in WCW for a while. It's a shame these guy were never pushed, they had a cool little gimmick and look, and could work pretty well. Actually I think I just witnessed the first ever pedigree, or at least some form of it. No idea if that's Gangrel or his partner who did it though.
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WCW ongoing thread
Completely random ? I wouldn't say that. PN News was feuding with Austin at the time over the TV title, and Eaton & Taylor were orbiting around this title too. The Southern Boys were feuding with the Freebirds for quite a while if I remember right (or was it still the beginning of their long feud ?). Ricky Morton vs Roberts Gibson was the logical follow-up tp Morton turning his back on the fans and joigning the York Foundation while Gibson was injured. Nikita Koloff vs Sting had been built well on TV too. Now, there were random, useless match up and down the card, but I'd say 2/3 of the card made sense. The card was still a disater though with nearly no good match, and the infamous Flair debacle. WCW really crumbled after Flair left and things really got interesting again only once Rude showed up at Havoc and the Dangerous Alliance was formed. 1991 is an odd year anyway, as the world title picture really is mostly fucked up all year long by terrible booking : Flair vs Gigante ? Flair vs Fujinami, who no one knew in the US ? Then Luger winning the belt in the worst case scenario with the most anticlimatic heel turn ever against a former heel working face for no reason; the first Ron Simmons push to main event (actually worked better that the second time to me). The main things I liked that year were the York Foundation and Steve Austin in the mid-card.
- [1993-04-24-SMW-TV] Interview: Tammy Fytch
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Getting even sadder, which didn't seem possible. John This sounds really bad. The depressing thing is that you can follow the downward spiral just watching the shoot interview she did over the years. A few years ago, she was talking about that great man she was dating. Few years later she said he was an asshole, was abusing and hitting her, was the reason she got hard into alcohol. She was then going into rehab (a few montsh ago I believe), was dating a younger guy, who happens to be the wrestler mentionned in the article, get clean and try to have a family when she would get out. Apparently things didn't quite work out this way. Totally depressing, as she looked quite okay a few years ago when she was inducted into the HoF. This girl needs help big time.
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The poor sportsmanship of Hulk Hogan
Yeah, Flair dating Fifi seems so nice and romantic now. It gets better and better. Too bad Russo isn't booking TNA anymore. Just picture the great angles he could get from this real situations;) (that Bubba guy seems to be a complete dipshit)
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The poor sportsmanship of Hulk Hogan
The clip is pretty funny. I love how he claims it was no big deal since they were swingers. Well, the guy wasn't exactly in the room with them on that tape.... Anyway, now we know the *real* power of Hulkamania.
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WCW ongoing thread
I know Dusty was also involved, but wasn't Ole the main booker still ? The boring TV with only squash match reeks of Ole. And yeah, I know Flair wasn't allowed to wrestle until the date of his WWF contract had expired, but the way they handled Flair was painfully boring and empty after just a few weeks. And it was the same way up and down the card. Teasing the 4 Horsemen reunion was a nice idea I guess as it would have been the first time that the Horsemen would have been babyface (I don't count the small window in early 90 before thet dumped Sting), but it still felt like recycling from the past. I don't know, but in context this period seems really empty, especially after the hot two first months of the year.
- [1993-04-17-SMW-TV] Rock & Roll Express and the Heavenly Bodies
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[1993-04-17-WCW-Saturday Night] Vader vs Cactus Jack
Brutal match, with an aura of violent brawl, but it's a bit too much of Cactus jerking off of getting hit in the nose and not enough good actual work like their previous match. Still like it, and the post match promo by Vader is great.
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- April 17
- 1993
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Brian Gewirtz removed from Creative
They should bring back Cornette.
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WCW ongoing thread
Holy shit were you right about that. As soon as Watts is removed and Ole gets the main booker position things get bad quick. It's not thet it gets bad, it's just that it gets unbelievably dull. I mean, I'm at mid- April, and it's like *nothing* has happened since Superbrawl. Seriously, expect the TV title tournament that I think was booked by Watts in advance anyway, or taped before he left (since Erik got to the final), it's complete status quo with no angle booked on TV basically. The Hollywood Blondes win the titles in the only big notable match on TV, but nothing happens with Rude (I know Dustin was injured then, but still, you get Rude cutting promos on everyone when he comes back, then nothing), no undercard feud, zilch. The worst of it is the booking of Flair, as he just gets boring after a week or two. Says or does nothing or note, basically a backdrop for Arn vs Windham feud (which would be cool if something would happen outside of Windham walking out on commenting about Flair for like 6 weeks straight). It just got this feeling of nothing happening, of complete dullness. Watt's TV the first months was painfull compared to the Dangerous Alliance days, but at least some stuff happened. Ole's product is all about nothing and squash matches with no angle. The only really bright spot of this period is Cactus vs Vader feud, and it is kinda tainted by the masochistic tendencies of Cactus (seriously, having his nose broken by vader was unecessary) and the fact that we know how it's gonna end up (Cactus amnesic on the streets). Like the impeding Horsemen angle is intriguing on paper (although moves way too slowly), but we know how it's gonna end up (Roma...). The build to Slamboree hasn't begun, but really, WCW hasn't been that boring since, well, the infamous Summer of 1990. Ole must be WCW's worst booker easily next to Russo.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
Especially a few weeks after Jerry Lawler having a heart attack...
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WCW ongoing thread
Not much "Blasphemy!", rather "Scratching my head about how can any wrestling fan not be a fan of Cornette & MX...". Well, I never quite got into pure lucha libre, so...
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WCW ongoing thread
You haven't seen enough MX, that's all I can think about. Eaton has always been the workhorse, he's not the one who's supposed to be the most dastardly and arrogant one (Lane and especially Condrey were), but I don't see how his style wasn't heelish. The punch in the nose hidden from the referee, dropping the alabama jam while he's not the legal man, the agressiveness. I don't remember if Eaton was already a full fledge babyface by the time WW91 came, but as I said he was a babyface for most of the year, and it's not his best role. His work was still pretty flawless though.
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WCW ongoing thread
If there was anything dull about this match, it was Brad Armstrong, who's exactly what you describe to me : technically sound but dull and never living up to his reputation. Eaton working face is not as fun as him working heel, but really, he was the best wrestler in WCW in 1990, and once the Dangerous Alliance get started he's on fire again. He shows up in 1992.
- [1993-04-03-SMW-TV] Kevin Sullivan vignette
- [1993-04-03-SMW-TV] Interview: Jim Cornette & Heavenly Bodies
- [1993-04-10-SMW-TV] Heavenly Bodies & Jim Cornette and Bob Armstrong
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[1993-04-10-SMW-TV] Bobby Eaton vs Tom Prichard
Disapointing that it was just a backdrop for a promo.
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- April 10
- 1993
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[1993-03-27-WCW-Saturday Night] Maxx Payne's "Norma Jean's Blues"
Cool vignette. I don't understand why Payne, who had a good gimmick despite being a rather poor worker at this time, was not given a better ring outfit. He looked like a total generic big guy jobber then.
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WWF announcing debate mega-thread
Mansoon was tolerable with Jesse because Jesse wouldn't let him bully him and with Heenan because they had a comedy duo dynamic, but let's be honest, Mansoon as a purely wrestling announcer was annoying as fuck and was acting like a bully babyface who would get himself over first and foremost (and let's not mention *getting a few shots on Vader*...). I enjoy Jesse/Mansoon and Heenan/Mansoon, but strictly because he had a chemistry with both. Why wouldn't Lance Russel do it ? Probably because he was a great wrestling announcer (I'm getting a few entire years of Memphis TV soon, and I'm pretty excited about hearing tons of Lance Russel one of these days).
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WCW ongoing thread
Watching late 92 episodes of the Main Event, I got a kick out of two things : Madusa cutting short promos in Japanese (Rude was feuding with Chono leading to HH); Jim Ross talking about WCW going to Philly and dropping the name of Tod Gordon of all people, as he was promoting for them locally then (Viking Hall appears on house show listing during commercials too).
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"He's ambitiously stupid" - Why Scott Keith's new book is scary bad
Who's that fat guy behind Flair ?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
She always denied it, including in RF's most recent (and quite exploiting) shoot in which she said she alwyas lied her ass off in shoot interviews except on this one. Oh, Tammy... The only thing you can hope for her with the latest ordeals is that she gets things together, get the hell far away from anything wrestling related and doesn't drop dead before she's 45, really. (gotta love Sean making fun of the "Hart Family Handshake" though...)