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I don't remember Bammer being lazy in ECW. When would you say he was ? (I still think he was kinda underwhelming though, just like pretty much everywhere I can think of. Bubba certainly has a lot more memorable matches, but after 95 there wasn't much left in Bubba it seems. I'd take Bubba over Bam Bam probably for peak, but Bam Bam was pretty much alway fun to watch unlike Bubba, whose last runs in WCW after 95 and WWF were plain bad)
- [1993-01-13-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXII] Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas vs Hollywood Blonds
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[1993-01-09-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/ Vader
I liked how Vader was put over as an athlete as opposed to a freak show like he would have in WWF during the Hogan era. Even low-key, Vader is intimidating. Good stuff, and glad the title went back to him after the failed Simmons experiment. Good way to re-establish a hierarchy for the new year.
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[1993-01-09-WCW-Saturday Night] Barry Windham vs Ricky Steamboat
Excellent TV match, strong on selling and storytelling. Those two were the two most solid wrestlers on the roster at the time, and although it's not a spectacular match in term of spots or action, it's spectacular in term of how fluid it came down. Really surprised by the DQ ending, especially since as soon as the ref bump happened I though Barry would win after some cheating and go against Dustin in the final. I guess it was a way of tricking the audience into thinking they were gonna get a screwjob finish. Nice unpredictability. Douglas in zubaz is so early 90's.
- [1993-01-02-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/ Arn Anderson
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
What do you guys think ? Seems like there's some shady stuff still happening with some "benefit" shows I guess. I wasn't aware of Kamala's health. This sucks.
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WCW ongoing thread
I dunno. I think Badstreet was a rather shitty theme. Doesn't help of course that the Freebirds were often a rather shitty team too at this point. Well, they have no excuse.
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It'd probably be way more annoying if he didn't draw like crazy whenever he did that. Mid-South is a thousand times stronger anytime Watts is on camera or announcing. He was singularly excellent at getting the storylines over in the most passionate way possible and he knew his audience and spoke directly to their hearts. It's not MY heart. It's definitely not your heart. But it's weird to go after something so effective like that. Well, there's a difference between being super effective with his core audience in Mid-South in the 80's and being a total delusionnal dated dickhead on WCW TV trying to explain why you're not actually overpushing your own shitty worker of a son though. I like Mid-South a good deal, but it's not as great as it was pimped to be at one time I think. Especially UWF TV which could be grating at times. Of course there was also a good deal of really great stuff there.
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Davey Richards: Scam Artist
Holy shit, I just re-read that stuff. Glorious.
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[1992-12-26-WCW-Saturday Night] Battlebowl Feature / Interview: Rick Rude
Liked the Battebowl video quite a bit. Well produced and made it seem important.
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Most probably. Watts has always been overated anyway. Mid-South isn't the sacred land of the territories era, and UWF in particular was not that great. One of the annoying trait of Bill Watts was his way to put himself in front of the camera for no good reason and try to get himself over to the hardcore fans especially, with his bullshit about true wrestling. It gets especially annoying when he's on camera trying to deny the fact that he's *pushing* his own son to the moon. Watching Erik Watts get a win over Arn Anderson when he should be beating jobbers in the curtain jerker match is infuriating, watching him challenging Rick Rude is just stupid. And man, I HATE the new music themes WCW uses from December on. They had perfectly fine themes for Rude, Steamboat, Cactus Jack, and now I get to hear those lame generic tunes with stupid lyrics. I think Michael Hayes helped produced this, hich wouldn't surprised me, he ruined the Freebird mystique enough with his stupid songs when they should only have uses Freebirds.
- [1992-12-19-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Ron Simmons
- [1992-12-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Barry Windham, Ricky Steamboat, Dustin Rhodes and Shane Douglas
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[1992-12-12-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Rick Rude
Kinda sad that Rude implies that Madusa blew the doctor to get the X-rays. Couldn't they be less mysoginic ? It worked with Francine because that was the whole character, but Madusa just isn't that kind of character, she's an asskicker, not a whore. Anyway, I really enjoys these interviews with Tony, just gave a more human, non "promo" aspect to the interviews, and Rude really shines here. Like the fact he points out he's been the top contender for a year and still never recieved a title shot. Making sense out of the booking holes.
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[1992-12-05-WCW-Saturday Night] Big Van Vader & Rick Rude vs Sting & Ron Simmons
I'm totally down on Simmons at this point. He's just not a world champion, and his work looks more and more weak as time passes. Too bad Rude vs Simmons was called off, as I would have loved to see Rude win the WCW title at that point, and get a Vader vs Rude match teased in the interviews earlier in the show. Vader vs Sting work as good as they always do, and Simmons does a great power move on Vader, but this is nothing special as a whole. I did like the ending though.
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Davey Richards: Scam Artist
Oh man, I'll never hear the sentence " he shot on his opponent" the same way again.
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[1992-11-21-WCW-Saturday Night] Big Van Vader vs Dustin Rhodes
Very good TV match. Yeah, Dustin was probably Vader's best opponent in the US. Kinda sad to think about their matches 6 years later in WWF compared to this one. The spin off bump on the concrete is indeed quite impressive.
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[1992-11-18-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXI] Barry Windham & Dustin Rhodes vs Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas
I liked the execution of the turn. It's very organic. Barry was more agressive all match long, and he's a veteran and former Horsemen, he's not like young Dustin whose been tag champ with Steamboat a few months before, so he has a valid point about wanting to get the pin on the injured Steamboat, accident or not. Dustin coes comes off a bit hollier than thou as a white meat babyface, but at the time it still worked very well. Windham is pretty awesome and the best of the four there, and Douglas shows how much he has improved since the Dynamic Dudes, the bump he takes neck first on teh top rope is brutal. The only thing that didn't work with his work was that the belly to belly was definitely a weak finisher. Very good match, very good angle.
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[1992-11-18-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXI] Sting vs Rick Rude
Never saw this one before, and although Rude on control can be dull at times, I think this was a perfectly good match, and they worked an exciting final stretch. Nice sellings and transitions, I don't see what's disapointing about it. I liked the judges finish becaus it protected Rude from being pinned.
- [1992-11-18-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXI] Music Video: Tom Zenk & Johnny Gunn
- [1992-11-18-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXI] Ron Simmons & 2 Cold Scorpio vs Cactus Jack & Tony Atlas & The Barbarian (Handicap)
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[1992-11-14-WCW-Saturday Night] Dustin Rhodes vs The Barbarian
Another good TV match. Started off a bit on the sloppy and hesitant side, but there's plenty to love here, as highlighted by Tomk's review. The powerslam is fantastic, as Dustin is a really big guy to turn around in mid air. Barbie has a focused offense on the back, and Dustin's selling is efficient. Good tease and counter of the bulldog spot. I only thought the finish was a bit cheap, but I guess it worked as Barb really went all the wya into the post.
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[1992-11-07-WCW-Saturday Night] Rick Rude vs Barry Windham
Really good 10 minutes TV match between two of the best workers of the year in the promotion. Windham looks really big next to Rude, and I'm not saying this because he's getting on the fat side. I like Rude without the stache too. Any style suits the man. Some nifty stuff like Windham putting on the brakes and not crashing on the post outside, or the way he just launches Rude on his ass at the beginning. Madusa looks great but does nothing, I guess the "face turn" against Paul E. prevented her from being too involved. Kinda sloppy finish, but strong TV match otherwise.
- [1992-11-07-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Jake Roberts
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[1992-11-07-WCW-Saturday Night] Brian Pillman, Tom Zenk and Paul E. Dangerously
Why was Z-Man employed for so long ? Maybe because he was a pretty good worker that was useful as a utility guy on the lower undercard. I think Zenk gets a bad rep and I don't get why. He wasn't overly charismatic, and but he delivered his share of pretty good stuff in the ring over the years.