El-P
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Ted DiBiase was pretty boring and uneffective as a color guy. -
Yep, I always found Piper pretty unbearable for this reason.
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Ii would be remiss on my part if I didn't mention Guy Hauray who at times was fabulous.
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"He's going to the pay window, baby, on da mothership."
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I've only seen 1992, and I agree. Dutch was fantastic. He was funny, he was smart and articulate, he was getting the storylines over while being a total sleazy chickenshit heel. Tremendous.
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Better than the Beach Blast match for obvious reasons, they didn't had to kill time. Excellent match, but Doc & Gordy have had better ones in AJ. As far as the Steiner goes though, it's easily one of their best match ever, again for obvious reasons, Doc & Gordy were a fantastic team and provided the structure that normal Steiner matches lack. Nifty amateur influenced work at the beginning, stiffness, great suplexes which actually meant something for once, great work by Doc & Gordy who just won't be intimidated by the Steiners, which makes the whole match more fresh and more intense than ever. You get the feeling Doc & Gordy could have done more and that they were not going full bore (they didn't do that much in term of big moves), keeping stuff aside for matches to come. Loved it.
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Agreed. I never got the appeal of the E/C vs Hardys vs Duds matches outside of them being spectacular but carefuly choreographed stuntfests. And when I mean stuntfest, it's to underline the fact that these were not even spotfest in a wrestling sense, these were all about a bunch of guys doing stunts with props and falling from high places. If anything, it makes the WM X match even more relevant now because compared to those matches, it looks even more like a wrestling match which happened to have a prop to get to the belt, as opposed to "hey, look at me while I'm crashing down through a bunch of tables." Maybe the Benoit vs Jericho ladder match makes Shawn vs Razor dated, but I'm not sure.
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Agreed about the booking making no sense with non-titles matches and two 30 minutes matches on the same show, which drained the audience, especially when Doc & Gordy weren't over much. Anyway, I hadn't seen this in ages, and it's way better than I remembered it to be. What's cool is that there's no way the Steiners were gonna bully Doc & Gordy around. Doc & Gordy really give the entire match its structure, so I like it much better than all those vaunted Steiners spotfest. Cool amateur stuff early on. Doc had really progressed working all this time in AJ and it shows. Gordy is great. The Steiners are kinda shitty face in peril, and although they work obviously toward a long match (meaning : slow pace), they do get some got heat at the end. Gotta love Gordy keeping an hear on teh final countdown, and as idiot Steiner is doing hand gesture to the public while only a few seconds left, Gordy immediately gets up to feed him for the frankensteiner before it's too late. Gordy was great. Anyway, I liked this quite a bit.
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Agreed. Great work, great selling, but the way the match was laid out with too many pins hurt the match a bit to me. I can't stand pinfalls that would just never happen in any other match happening in Iron Man or 2/3 falls. There's no way Steamboat gets pinned with the first and third falls in any kind of match, just no way, so it hurts the perception of the match to me. Especially since they got back at 3-3 anyway to work a great final stretch. Rude's selling is one of the best ever in a US match. The way they worked the sleeprhold and how it cost Rude the final fall is awesome, just like the way Rude goes into panic mode to get even when there's only 30 seconds left. Had this gone to 1-2 or even 2-3 with more credible pinfalls, this would be the MOTY without a doubt. As it is, nope. I'd have a hard time not considering it a great match though, but on the lesser side of great. MOTYC still, of course, who am I kidding, the work and the last ten minutes are just too good. (the tope rope dq rule is complete retardation, especially when a top rope superplex is allowed. Watts was ridiculous with this).
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This has aged super well. Everything flows naturally. Foley's bumps and spots still look brutal today, and Sting takes his share of abuse too. Some nifty wrestling spots on the concrete too, and a very good use of the guardrails and ramp. I agree Fonzie did a great job, he was really a top notch referee. Funny how safe the chair shots look, and still, it projects the aura of violence instead of stupidly stiffing the fuck out of someone's back like people would in the late 90's. Sting really hit his stride in 1992, he's finally become a cool worker to watch in big matches. Like this a lot.
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The Mike McGuirk one is actually really interesting.
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Carlos Colon's shoot interview is the lastest in a long series of worthless shoot interviews. No stories, everyone is "good guy, did good business". Of course he says nothing about Brody getting stabbed, he knows nothing about it. Load of bullshit. Feinstein is really bad as always although he kinda tries to ask tough questions at times.
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The only real douchebag and criminal Dick Togo is paying hommage to would be, well, General Togo I'd guess.
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Not familiar with the AWA work aside of the usual suspects with Summer/Rose. Shawn was a great babyface tag worker in the WWF. Interesting character wise, was still searching himself in the ring quite a bit in 1992. Already a few great matches though (the two ladder matches, Jarrett) Was beginning to be annoying as a character especially when he became the WWF champ, hit his stride as a worker but didn't had that many *great* matches either. The Nash IYH match and the Foley one. To me this is his peak as a character. Just a heat magnet, immature prick you just want to slap the fuck out of. In term of work he was beginning to break down because of injuries in early 98, but the Taker HITC match remains a great performance. My favourite Shawn period. Have seen quite a bit of his big matches, some are really good (Jericho), some are really bad (HHH), some are really annoying (Hogan, Flair). Hurt by the self-conscious epic/Kurt Angle style mentality.
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I.R.S. vs Taker was an insanely boring feud and triggered the insanely boring and neverending Taker vs Million Dollar Corporation feud which gave us great stuff like Taker vs Bundy and Taker vs Kama. Man, Taker was such a drag back then, Mankind really it a fire under the gimmick it's not even funny.
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Easily the best match of the 2/3 bunch, and probably my favourite TV match of the year thus far. Very close with Arn vs Dustin from early January. Very old-school, very oriented of working a body part, but never got boring. The 2/3 stip works very well here becaus eof the time given to the match and the way they used their highspots. Barry and Arn probably are the two best TV wrestlers that year so far, and they deliver in spades here. Gotta love the pacing and selling. Cheap finish, but the match itself is excellent.
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Terrific TV match, maybe my favourite of the year thus far. This is very much the equivalent of the Bret vs Backlund match from Superstars in 1992, in that it was a very technical, bodypart working, mat oriented match, with few highspots, but every one of them mattered. I agree the finish is kinda cheap, although it protect both Arn and the superplex.
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Apart from being fairly big (and not even gigantic), what was Studd's appeal ? He couldn't work a lick.