Everything posted by El-P
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
So, the WWE is ruining the only thing that's good in their product today. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan was too good I guess, so we really needed Kane thrown in the mix.
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SMW Ongoing Thread
Saw Fire in the Mountains 92 which is the only big card I have from that year. Pretty good stuff. I enjoyed Orndorff vs Garvin the most, although the finish was kinda cheap, with no piledriver in a piledriver match. But the match itself was super solid and old-school, it could have happened just the same in 1984, and it's a compliment. Both guy over 40 showing how it's done. Landell vs Horner was a bit too much your-turn my turn, but the work was good. I love Horner's straight punches, they look really crisp. I thought The Rock'n Roll match was pretty much by the number, so pretty good but nothing special, not a big fan of the Stud Stable's work thus far. Brian Lee vs DWB was okay for what it was. Lee is a strange case, he's strong, he moves well, he works hard, but it really doesn't click. Cornette put it best when he said "He had all the tools but couldn't read the manual.". The Fans vs Heavenly Bodies was decent but this kind of cage match makes it hard to have a really good match. It's all about blood, which is funny when you think Corny was doing garbage stuff before ECW, although old-school garbage of course.
- [1992-08-08-SMW-Fire on the Mountain] Brian Lee vs Dirty White Boy
- [1992-08-08-SMW-Fire on the Mountain] Rock & Roll Express vs Stud Stable
- [1992-08-08-SMW-Fire on the Mountain] Heavenly Bodies vs Bobby & Jackie Fulton (Barbed Wire Cage)
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HOF nonsense thread
The NAO ? Are we serious ? These guys were an intro that got a big pop. An intro. People didn't give a shit after the intro, they just wanted to chant along, the NOA matches were mostly dead.
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SMW Ongoing Thread
You can add Landell. Actually, Tim Horner doesn't bother me because he's in the "so bad it's funny" territory to me on the stick. Bobby Fulton is pretty good though, but yes, the face side is pretty thin as far as good promo goes, thankfully Bullet Bob gets things straight.
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[1992-08-08-SMW-TV] Heavenly Bodies vs The Fantastics vs Stud Stable vs Dixie Dynamite & Danny Davis
I disagree. The better part of the match involve the Bodies. Once they and the Fans are gone, the match is just not as good, although Danny Davis really shines. I'm not feeling Dixie at all, he's clearly the worst Armstrong brother. I enjoy 4 corner matches, and they did a good job with the gimmick, nicely building Fans vs Bodies and giving Golden & Fuller time to get some heat. Good stuff.
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[1992-08-08-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Bob Armstrong
Agreed too. Both Dutch and Armstrong are just perfect there. Yet another excellent edition of Down & Dirty.
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- 1992
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- [1992-08-01-SMW-TV] Interview: Jim Cornette & Heavenly Bodies
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SMW Ongoing Thread
I enjoyed Scott & Steve back in 1999 when they would showed up in Nitro and Thunder randomly. The Dixie character is just cheese and the mask doesn't do Scott any favour, as I think it emphasize his bad teeth. I actually never saw the Stud Stable before, only saw Golden as Bunkhouse Buck in WCW and Fuller as a manager, which I always enjoyed.
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SMW Ongoing Thread
Well, I know. But I thought putting all of these next to one another produced a funny creepy effect.
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[1992-07-25-SMW-TV] Interview: Jim Cornette & Heavenly Bodies
Come on people, Stan's got a busted eardrum...
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- July 25
- 1992
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SMW Ongoing Thread
Between this, "White Ligntning", Dixie Dy-no-mite with the confederate flag all over his face, how close was SMW from having a bunch of Klan members ? Woops, the Harris Boys and their SS tatoos are coming soon, nevermind... Seriously, WTF was Cornette thinking having a nazi jobber ? I'm really enjoying the Heavenly Bodies vs Fantastics feud. Tons of great brawl sequences, really feels like Mid-South. With the barb-wire cage match coming up at Fire On the Mountain, that feeling will only get stronger I guess. Bob Armstrong is a great TV character, and superb talker. I also really warmed up to Caudle, and Dutch Mantell is just hilarious and a tremendous color man. Why was he not given a good role in WWF or WCW is beyond me. Brian Lee is clearly not doing much for me as the ace of the promotion. He's okay but not very good at anything. Can't wait til we get more of DWB, I'm enjoying him more each week. Tim Horner is a guilty pleasure. Such a horrible promo, but such a solid worker in the ring. Dixie Dy-no-mite is an annoying gimmick, and I feel like the lesser of the Armstrong is under the mask thus far. Ditto Killer Kyle, I just don't care for the guy at all. Jobber doing a third rate Mr. Hughes gimmick. Danny Davis is still a good worker, but his looks is just bad, again, looks like a jobber with these thights. I wish they would do more with him though. I did not care one bit for Jimmy Golden vs Robert Gibson, but turning this into a tag feud will get things better.
- [1992-07-25-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Dirty White Boy
- [1992-07-25-SMW-TV] Interview: Robert Gibson / Interview: Ricky Morton / Interview: Stud Stable
- [1992-07-18-SMW-TV] Jimmy Golden vs Robert Gibson
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[1992-07-18-SMW-TV] Contract Signing: The Fantastics vs Heavenly Bodies
A few things there. First, Bob Armstrong is one of the best authority figure I've seen. Stern, great on the mic, credible. Second, Cornette takes a great bump out of throwing a fit, it's hilarious. What strikes me in this segment is how lively and organic it is. Today, everything is : one guy talks on the mic, then another guy talks on the mic, then the other guy respond, and everything is awkward and looks fake. Here, things happen in the ring, everyone is reacting to what's being said, Cornette is talking whether he's given the mic or not, it feels "real", it flows. This is so refreshing compared to the dull monologues exchanges that we have on TV now.
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Size matters?
My girlfriend says yes. As a wrestling fan, I think it's ridiculous. If Vince wanted to make Rey Mysterio the Man, he would. He has just as much (well, more infact) charisma as John Cena, he could move merch like crazy with kids, he could have moved the spanish speaking audience, he's a superior worker. The "pseudo-sport" aspect is so irrelevant at this point. Plus as Ric Flair would do, you cut them legs and those giants don't look so big flat on their backs. Pro-wrestling is perception only. If you train people to think that Rey Mysterio is the Man, they will accept it as the guy is capable of playing the part.
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Hulk Hogan's best matches
That's why the + is there. He had the supreme IT anyway. Like I previously said, he was also crazy over in New Japan too. Then came the WWF marketing machine, which propelled him even higher in term of global overness.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
Not where I get them anyway..... But I think so, yes. Maybe I'm mistaken.
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Hulk Hogan's best matches
This. At some point, I'm willing to give Hogan all the credit he deserves, and he's been given plenty in the last 5 or 6 years, but one as to also accept the fact that WWF marketing machine + intangible IT made Hogan what he became. Not his great talent. He had more IT than anyone else before and after him (until The Rock came on scene). When you're over to that degree, the quality of the match doesn't matter at all.
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Cena/Lesnar
Cena winning *in the context of the match* doesn't bother me. As a one night stand, I thought it was awesome from start to finish. In context, the finish is totally retarded of course. Hogan hulking up at WM 5 and shitting on Savage's elbow and rolling up the match in one big boot and one legdrop really kills the match to me.
- [1992-07-11-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Ron Wright, Dirty White Boy and Paul Orndorff
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[1994-06-11-WCW-Saturday Night] Hulk Hogan parade and press conference
I can only imagine for the guys who went through the old NWA for years, then WCW with the great 1992 and early 1994, Flair, Steamboat, Dangerous Alliance, Dustin, Austin, Pillman, Vader, how they must have felt at this moment. My heart would have sunk. I don't think they would have picture that the next Starrcade would be main-evented by Brutus Beefcake though.