El-P
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I don't think anyone here is saying Brock would have made a monstruous, historical buyrate anyway. Especially since like you said the writers suck anyway and they can't book to save their life. Still, Brock vs Cena built for the second biggest show of the year would have made probably a bigger buyrate than normal, and it was common sense to at least *try* to make the most out of him. Instead, they hotshot the big match on the B-PPV following a ridiculous WM. Lesnar was probably not worth that kind of money, especially in non-competitive landscape, but they did exactly the contrary of what they should have done to at least try, just try to make the most out of the investment. -
Well, some people thought it was a good idea to rush through stuff with Lesnar to get "the most out of him right away". Some people thought Cena beating Lesnar was a good idea too. Where's the "burning money" banner again ?
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I would agree. Plus you don't fuck with the Brazilians. It's a rather dangerous place.
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Because it was a great gimmick and it suited Landell perfectly. Got a kick of him getting introduced as "The Real Nature Noy" in SMW.
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That's an interesting remark. I agree Cena has "brand" tatooed on his forehead, whereas Hogan looked like he was bigger than wrestling itself. The fact he was a big star in AWA and New Japan before going to WWF probably helps.
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Flair was a second rate Buddy Rogers too. So... Landell is the lost worker of the 80-90's. If personnal issues and bad decision didn't fuck him up, he would be remembered as one of the greatest. I have that much faith just from the snippets of brillance you get from him everywhere he went.
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Hunter : "See, I told you, Brock isn't a draw, he failed miserably. I should go over him clean at Summer Slam."
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You're not missing anything, that's it. Great spectacle. As far as pure work goes... not so great, but that really wasn't the point. It was meant to be an awesome spectacle, and it succeeded in that respect in more ways than I thought it would. Brock was a great heel, Cena did what he does best, which is sell. That's all there is to it really, but that's enough to make it a great wrestling moment to me. Maybe it doesn't hold up on rewatch though. Now that the excitement over Brock has, well, dropped dead, and knowing the retardation of the finish (and what followed) may hurt the perception of the match in retrospect. I dunno. It looked great when it happened.
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The end of the Quebecers, sadly. I didn't care for the HeadShrinkers as faces, I though Lou Albano made them look goofy. It's also the beginning of the tag title becoming less important than ever at this time. The Shrinkers had one title match against a makeshift tag team, then lost on a house-show to Shawn & Diesel, then it got vacated... This period really struck me at the time as the beginning of the end for the tag titles.
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Ah, fun stuff. I guess there's a heavy dose of tongue-in-cheek in this piece. Well, one could argue that the fascination for musclebound clean-shaven guys in crew cuts isn't that far remove from the fantaisies of Leni Riefenstahl.... Cena could be one of the greek statues-like athlete in Triumph of Will... (I know, it's silly)
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Not to mention they are unable to edit their stuff to make it seem at least somewhat clean looking (not as atrocious as at the beginning, but still). While interesting at points because Tajiri has a unique trajectory, and the point of view of a japanese wrestler is very interesting for cultural differences only, it looks like this shoot interview was done on the fly after a match, as Tajiri looks like he didn't even get to take a shower and get dressed. Really unprofessionnal all the way. Highspots are better in that the guy is more knowledgeable, but the production values are just as bad and they are worse in terms of dragging out at times (man, that Scotty Riggs interview...). Kayfabe Commentaries blows everyone in term of production, it's not perfect but at least looks professionnal most of the time. They do some really cheap stuff too though (those best/worst angle stuff with a WTF panel including Chyna, Danny Doring next to guys like JJ Dillon, Animal, Bill Eadie, Sunny, Maria Kanelis, Billy Gunn, Bill Apter).
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Yep. Kinda negates the dancers too. Can't have the sexyness and the "family kiddie entertainement" at the same time. Art Barr ?
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BTW, I never wrote that Show's fat punch looked *bad*. I only said that considering it's a signature finisher spot, it doesn't look very good, that it didn't work for me and that Show isn't exactly throwing a punch like Bobby Eaton. It looks okay I guess, which is not enough to make me believe it's a lethal finisher.
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DWB beating on anyone is fine, but Lee is just bland and an okay worker at very best. The ebst part is Rip Rogers reaction to getting the money, and the Orndorff beatdown at the end.
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Well, I did say "blame me for not being a regular watcher" then added than "as a casual viewer, this didn't look good to me, and knowing that it's a signature spot doesn't change the fact it didn't look good to me anyway". If some have trouble understanding, I can't spell it to them better than this. What's hard to understand there, really ? Jeez... Plus it's really a point of detail, it's not like I'm focusing on the punch, the entire segment was awful.
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Like in "not having watch any WWE show in context save for WM and very few occasionnal matches (Punk vs Cena) or RAW in the last 8 years ?" ? Yeah, that's me. I've watched more WWE in context since this year's WM than I have since 1999, and quite frankly I wasn't aware of the fat punch being the ultimate lethal weapon in WWE. Doesn't look great. Not a fan of the killing punch unless you're called Aja Kong and you're twisting the back of your fist blindly into someone's nose.