Everything posted by El-P
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WCW ongoing thread
Hum.. that jobber Lou Tafaloni looks an awful like Louie Spicolli. He must have been 17 years old back then, he looks like a kid. The build to Starrcade was a bit counterproductive because it made it obvious before Clash 9 that Flair would beat Funk and Luger would beat Pillman. The iron man tournament was just not a very good idea for the major PPV of the year, and I guess it's the debut of Starrcade being ampered by being a gimmick show.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
Wasn't a fan of them chanting "AR RI GA TO" either or them anouncing him as "Kobashi Kenta". Little too over the top "look at us trying to be hip and act all Japanese when we're not" for me, though i'll fully admit the latter of those 2 things is more just me being nit picky. I felt the same way about the ring announcer weeabooing it up. It seemed less a gesture of respect than him cosplaying announcing a GHC match at the Budokan. Like I said before, the entire match felt like total cosplay to me.
- [1992-11-26-WWF-Survivor Series] Ric Flair & Razor Ramon vs Randy Savage & Mr Perfect
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[1992-12-27-WWF-Worcester, MA] Shawn Michaels vs Randy Savage
Never seen it, but what you mention about Savage is interesting. In a matter of few weeks, Savage would go on as becoming a RAW color guy with the occasionnal feature match on TV and guet spot on PPV. Pretty stupid, as he was obviously the biggest star on the roster at this point, and could still have contributed a lot. Savage being "too old" is the only reason I ever heard. Savage's career in WCW proved Vince wrong.
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Favorite Stan Hansen matches!!!!
You can't script shit like this. "Cause I feel like GOOOOOOOOOOOOD !" Psycho Backlund was great. He was legit scary.
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Favorite Stan Hansen matches!!!!
The Backlund heel turn was one of the best angle of the decade, and Backlund was amazing. The post-match promo at Survivor Series is jaw dropping. Just a terrific angle from start to bottom. Too bad it fizzled out after Backlund jobbed to Diesel, and the poor match with Bret Hart at WM11. But from the heel turn to Survivor Series, it was amazing.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
I for one loved Gary Hart's, although I pretty much knew nothing about the territories he talked about (never saw much of World Class). Really very interesting, and Hart is a pleasure to listen too. Ditto Jerry Jarrett's. In the same serious vein, Austin Idol's was pretty interesting too. I thought Rick Martel's was very interesting as well, this guy truly went in a lot of different places, and the guy comes off as quite humble. Mike Awesome was very good too if you're an FMW fan. In the "surprisingly good", Ranger Ross is very interesting, and he's another guy who comes off looking like an humble and nice guy. As far as "dirt stuff goes", you don't get much better than Jannetty's, Raven/Sandman duo and Brickhouse Brown. Raven's single shoots really balances between the very interesting booking/working stuff and the fun dirt. Dustin's shoots are pretty much terrible and downright hard to watch when he cracks up and cry about not being able to see his daughter. Seriously, this is stuff we don't need to see...
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Dave Meltzer stuff
He was awful. Decent as Malice in TNA though. Yeah, I watched the first few PPV, and he seemed to have improved quite a bit since the Wall days. Well, he could only improve.
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Shawn Michaels vs. Buddy Landel from SMW
That would have been pretty awesome, but I doubt Hogan and his crew would have him let get the heat.
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Favorite Stan Hansen matches!!!!
Well, I'm sure he wouldn't be more embarrasing than say, Flair's last ten years. In Japan in a retro promotion like Muga when it existed, yeah, I guess. Elsewhere, I highly doubt it.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
Oh, god yeah. And do some actual editing. And have a proper sound.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
Yep. That's why the best ones really are when a guy tells tons of stories. I'm currently listening to Tracey Smother's (from 2003 I think), and it's really fun. But it's 90% a monologue. The guy from KC seems like he would be a better interviewer than anyone from RF, Highspots, but the formats he work with doens't allow real in depth interviews.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
Man, The Wall was awful...
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[1992-10-17-WWF-Superstars] Bob Backlund feature
I remember those clips. This was indeed so odd, because it made Backlund look like a relic from some ancient time, when he was the same age as Ric Flair (43), and Savage was already 41.
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[1992-10-24-WCW-Saturday Night] Music Video: Van Hammer
How far behind pop culture wrestling is ? I mean, this was right out of the mid-80's. Even in 1998, Hammer still sucked in the ring, this guy never amounted to anything, amazing he was kept around for so long.
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- 1992
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Talkin' Stone Cold Violence Against Women Paranoid Blues
Seems like garbage wankery to me, but I don't have a problem with it since it is clearly portrayed as a "wrestling match" and not mindless man on woman violence. Plus like MJH said, Necro seems to put the girl over pretty big, so in the end I have no problem with this. A babyface bullying a woman to the applauds of the crowd, I do have a problem with.
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[1992-12-14-NJPW-Final Battle] Great Muta vs Hiroshi Hase
Thanks for the clarification. Always thought the term popped up from the first one, but now that I think of it, it makes sense it would be after the second.
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Guys you "should" like but don't?
I enjoyed Bradshaw way before it was fashionable to enjoy him. Back from the Justin "Hawk" days. I enjoyed the New Blackjacks. I enjoyed his first mini-push against Jarrett in 98. I thought he was decent as a third rate Stan Hansen, and stiff work was a breath of fresh air in the WWF at that time. But his work as JBL in big matches, nah, never saw anything that good in this. His matches with Eddie were some of the best matches I've seen from the modern WWE style, but that was basically 90% Eddie making them good. So, basically, I enjoyed Bradshaw when nobody cared and when he was a non-factor, and thought he was overrated as all hell when he was pushed to the moon, and just wasn't that good of a worker in that setting. The fact he finally got a push to the top just because he was basically an office stooge doesn't play in his favor either. It's not like he got super over either. On a side note, I miss true wrestling cowboys, it was a tradition. They all wore those same cowboy-like boots too.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
Just watched the Chris Candido Shoot Interview, and it's one of the funniest and most candid (no pun intended) ones I've seen. It's also pretty heartbreaking that this guy had to die at 33 (and to think I am two years older than the age he died at). Really comes off as a super nice and honest guy. He also paints a pretty cool picture of Sabu as a really nice and generous guy.
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[1992-12-14-NJPW-Final Battle] Great Muta vs Hiroshi Hase
From my recollection it's a terrific match. The Muta scale actually comes from the 1990.09.14 match, which wasn't as great in term of work, but even more gory. I also think it was one of Muta's first match, if not the first, on Japanese TV.
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- [1992-12-19-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Ron Simmons
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
Yeah, Luger gets a bad rep because he wasn't the best worker (although much better than given credit for at one point), and most of all he wasn't a wrestling fan to begin with. He treated this strictly as a business. Add to that the fact that he was pushed to the moon very early on because of his body, and you get an unmissable mix for "bad rep". His fate is pretty tragic when you think about it.
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Shiro Koshinaka
Yes, Kosh was a AJ trainee. No idea why he jumped to NJ. It's pretty ironic that he would not be talked as the same level as the Three Musketeers, because for the longest time Kosh was considered much better than either Muto or Chono. I know I've lost track with the trend of the days, and maybe there has been a backlash against 80's Kosh (for whatever reason...), but really, last time I checked, Kosh was the reliable NJ heavy to get a good match with. As far as puch goes, he would simply never got ahead of the three Musketeers because he was a former junior, and former junior don't become big heavyweight star unless your name is Tatsumi Fujinami. He was destined to be just like Hase, a good upper midcard hand. He had shitloads of good matches and feuds, especially against guys who weren't the greatest workers (maybe John can jump in and talk about the super fun Kosh feud with the martial arts guys). He was also Choshu's assistant booker at one point I believe.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
40/60 Main thing that struck me is how most of those modern themes blend together and are mostly terrible generic metal (or worst, autotune r'n', save for a few (MVP, Beth Phoenix). Worst theme I was embarrassed to even recognize was Mr. Ass... WTF were they thinking ? Lots of late 90's-early 00's were quite generic as well, but not as offensive.
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Dave Meltzer stuff
I would call that a pretty sane and reasonnable opinion of things. And even then, Dave praises the shit out of some WWE matches, which I couldn't do for instance. There's no reason to be excited about pro-wrestling in 2011.