El-P
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Rey working the shitty WWE style based around one of the most ridiculous and annoying spot ever really disqualifies him from being considered a GOAT contender to me. I'm blaming the company and its policy of molding workers, not Rey, who by all acount is an awesome worker. -
I stumbled onto MITB a few weeks ago on french TV, and while CM Punk's entrance was awesome and he looked really kinda great, the fact that his match with Cena is considered a MOTY was a pretty clear cut sign that I thought current wrestling definitely had passed me by. Just coming back from vacation, and I'm learning all that happened in the past few days, including CM Punk losing his title because of KEVIN NASH in 2011, well, maybe it hasn't passed me by that much, maybe it just totally sucks. Either way, not good.
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Rewatching this match in context, it's clearly the best of an overrated serie. I hate the 40 minute draw. This one is still a pretty great match though, but Toyota and Yamada are two girls that dropped a whole lot when I watched the entire 92 year. And Toyota's personnality is kinda grating actually. Kyoko smokes her in 92.
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Sid had an awesome entrance. I hated Hogan, and thought Sid was great back then. Yeah. Was Papa Shango destined to have a big program on top next since he did the big run-in in teh main event ? Was the bad timing the reason it was scratched and he never became anything more than a JTTS ? The Warrior's comeback is pretty impressive though in term of "Wrestlemania moment" as they would say nowadays. Last stint this guys was relevant in any way shape or form.
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Odly (well, not that odly since it wasn't broadcasted in France), I had never seen any WCW at this point, but I had seen tons of Luger and Flair toys when I went to England the previous years, so I knew this guy was a big star from "the other company", and I couldn't wait to see him. I didn't get the WBF deal at all though. Oh, Vince and you stupid business ventures ideas...
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Great great match. Aja wasn't quite there yet, but Bull in her prime was special.
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Way overrated, and Inoue was a much better worker than Toyota already. Still better (I think?) than the also way overrated Toyoa vs Yamada series.
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The first Wrestlemania I ever saw. I loved Savage, I loved Flair, the Dome, the blood, Liz storming up in panic to the ring, the post-match insanity. Still one of my favourite wrestling moments for pure nostalgia reason, and in retrospect, an excellent match (although it's obvious both guys have just passed their prime) and an amazing angle surrounded with classic interviews from everyone involved.
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Awesome meeting of two worlds. Samuel Beckett and young Andre the Giant talking cricket in a car ? AWESOME.
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Agree with John about the domestic violence issue. It is where most of the murder, rape and abuse occur. Brings us back to the South park episode where the parents send their kids away from them so they are safe... As far as knowing in advance something was up, I think it's a very though thing to do, because in 99% of the cases of a guy going on a murder rampage, the most common stuff you hear from the neighbours is "I would never have guessed, he was a very calm and polite man". You never really know people. The most facsinating case to me is Jean-Claude Roman, who passed himself as a doctor and a searcher at the WHO for years despite being unemployed and spending days in his car. In the end, trapped in his own spiral and without any more ways to get money, he killed his family so they would not know the truth. You can check it out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Romand Also agreed with sek as far as any signs of crazyness would be dismissed anyway because of the inherent nature of the wresting business. We're talking about a business in which Jimmy Snuka is still talked about as a great guy, and vile and cruel guys like Mr. Fuji or Dynamite Kids are merely "great ribbers". I honestly didn't think much about anything except "car accident" when I learned the whole family was killed. The Kevin Sullivan theories were so out there and retarded that it didn't bother me, but I was frankly appaled and shocked at how many people would try to convince themselves that Nancy had killed Daniel first, in a way of making Benoit murdering her "okay" because "that bitch had killed the kid first". It was all over the place, and I really thought it was repulsive. I'm glad I wasn't watching WWE programs anymore at this point, I wouldn't have wanted to get through those creepy "tributes".
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That's PC feminism bullshit. Women are physiologically weaker than men. Of course women who do combat sports or who are though girl could kick my weak ass in a snap, but on average, women are smaller and weaker than men, it's just a fact. Thousands of women die every year because they are beat down by men. Sometimes you just can't argue against nature. And I know what I'm talking about. I've slapped my girlfriend under the influence of alcohol (both of us drunk). She didn't mind, because she's that kind of girl, but still, makes you feel like a complete and utter shitbag. I've also been in the situation where a hysterical woman under the influence can drive you crazy to the point of you wanting to beat the crap out of her just so she would calm the fuck down and shut up. The only reasonnable thing a man should do is punch the wall, hurt your fist and get the fuck out of the room. Or if you're able to control yourself, physically hold her down without hurting her until she cools off, which usually isn't easy, and results in you getting hit multiple times. You don't hit a woman, period. I don't have an issue with those kind of serious intergender matches because they are treated like just an athletic contest, and if done right, especially when you work a lighter lucha influenced style, it can work fine. Those ARSION matches with Apache were lot of fun. I loved him working with his daughters too.
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Sting wasn't as good as Luger at first, and I was never a big fan of the surfer character, but he got better than Luger pretty quickly, and when Luger dropped off, Sting peaked and had quite a bit of tremendous match in the mid-90's, matches' better than Luger's best, in which he contributed a lot. Sting overall, by a large margin I would say.
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There is a difference, and that's why it was "acceptable". But still, I have an issue with a 270 pds male babyface doing anything physical to a woman. I did not have a problem with Sunny getting slopped. That's basic comedy stuff, and that was a great payoff. Sherri getting bullied, well, even when Terry Funk does it, I don't like that very much. Of course she was so good she would make it fun to watch thanks to her bumping and selling. But in strict kayfaybe sense, I didn't like it, it felt wrong. The valet is interfering ? Fuck up her guy. Make her look stupid.
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Maybe. And time for an arab muslim babyface. And a gay angle that actually makes it allright to be gay and doesn't involve rubbing you own body. It's wrestling though. Dream on.
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You mean he beat up the person who has attacked him on numerous occasions unprovoked, including costing him the WWF championship days before? How is that misogyny? Simple. A man beating a woman is misogyny. So Sherri was guilty of misandry? What ? A 270 pound man beating on a woman is just wrong, I don't care if she's a heel. Any man beating on a woman is fucking wrong, and babyface should not touch women. That was the whole deal about Chyna and what made her cool at the beginning, she was a amazonian female, but babyface wouldn't touch her because she was a woman. Then the first time Austin stunned her the pop was huge because it finally meant something and came after a one year build of Chyna fucking up men without ever getting a receit. You'll tell me I'm hypocritical then taking this example, but Austin at this time was a unique case of an asshole babyface, and Chyna was sold as being as strong as tough as any men. Warrior bullying Sherri Martel is different, it's just stupid shit that a babyface should never do. Remember how much heat Jake got for one slap to Liz. That worked and was sold as an heinous act. I wish things had stayed that way. That's one of the worst thing ECW brought to wrestling, making babyface violence again women totally acceptable. Of course It had been done in the 80's already but not to the point of becoming banal and even cool. The Duds putting women through tables and getting huge pop was everything wrong about the Attitude era audience. I hated that.
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You mean he beat up the person who has attacked him on numerous occasions unprovoked, including costing him the WWF championship days before? How is that misogyny? Simple. A man beating a woman is misogyny.
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Have you seen Martel's work from Montreal ? This is a territory I rarely hear about, depsite being quite big at one time. I also wonder what's available of his 70's work, as Martel worked nearly ten years before Hennig even debuted. It should be fair to note that as early as 1990 when he got to do the Model gimmick, Martel was doing pro-wrestling has a second job, as he went into real estate. He talks about it quite a bit in his (great) shoot interviews, saying that although he loved the Model gimmick (and came up with all the cool shit about it), he really didn't put that much into it as wrestling was beginning to be just a way to make some money to get cash for his real estate business.
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Rewatched the Luger match a few weeks ago. It's decent, that's it. Nothing much happens, and Hayes as a terrible DDT. I mean, Onita-like shitty. They also blow the ending badly, it's awful to watch. Phantom ref bump, awkward push from the outside by Gordy. Cringeworthy. I'm interested in watching the last Freebirds version, and thus far they have shown exactlly zilch against the MX. There's still plenty of matches for me to watch though. Hopefully they are better than they are considered, if not I'm in for some rough times.
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Maybe my view of Hennig has been tainted by his god awful WCW stint, but even from comparing the matches Lawler had with him, Bockwinckle and Martel, Hennig comes off as the worst of the three, easily. Of course I haven't seen much of his AWA work overall, so my opinion might change. Hennig is a guy I want to love because he was Mr. Perfect, and I loved him back in the days, but revisiting his work over the years just made me think less and less of him. I don't think Kerry was just a step above luggage. When he was on, he contributed quite a bit to the great matches he was involved in. When he was out of it, there was no hope. But since some think he's some fine piece of luggage what about : Kerry von Eric or Davey Boy Smith ?
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Agree. Dean never knew how to work with other people anyway, he was always working in a vacuum and doing his own little deal.
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Martel in a walk. Hennig is way overrated. Granted, I'm not very familiar with either AWA work, but the few I've seen, Martel blows Hennig away. The best thing about Hennig was the Mr. Perfect's gimmick. After his prime Hennig quickly got worthless, while Martel in 1998 demonstrated he was still solid as hell. Whipreck. I can find 200 wrestler better than Spike Dudley. Candido over both. Not seen much SMW though, so I guess I have some large chunks of Smothers/Candido to watch. Yes, it's a weird comp, as Sabu didn't do the "bleed the face" routine very long. Sabu, in a walk. At the end of my ECW watch, I wasn't tired of Sabu, he's a guy who went way up in my book. Hard choice. I may give the edge to Tajiri, but I have years of unwatched WCW stuff involving Scorpio. Both were pretty great. From what I've seen, Kerry gets the nod. Although Hayes is not bad. I like Saito quite a bit, but I haven't seen much of his prime. Yatus in his prime was awesome, he gets the nod. I like Fuji more than most, but Jumbo is just a top 3 greatest wrestler ever. Judging from the 90's only, Togo. I doubt things got reversed. Valentine.