Everything posted by Strummer
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Forgotten Good Workers/"Hey I Thought This Guy Was Supposed To Suck?"
Foley mentioned this on Stern in 99 or so. He was jealous that Marc negotiated himself that fat contract and that Rena Mero was the most talentless person to ever make a million dollars. The Foleys and Meros were actually friends in WCW and held parties/functions together
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Seriously Shameless
The HHH//Owen one is hard for me to accept. There's no way we could get into his mind or know if his tears were fake
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Former WWE Writer's Blog
http://www.wrestlingrecall.blogspot.com/ some tidbits from the former WWE writer's blog (JohnasHimself) -the Bellas/Bryan triangle storyline was the Bellas idea and they ran with it -the word "sex" is not allowed on WWE TV so the angle will be full of innuendo -the writer pitched a similar storyline for Evan Bourne -Vince does not see Morrison as a top guy because he "can't kick anyone's ass" -Vince does not see Bryan as a badass but a wrestler who "capitalizes on other's mistakes" -Vince sees Skip Sheffield as a potential top babyface right behind Cena -he pitched Drew McIntrye as the original attacker of Undertaker -Randy Orton was originally going to win the RAW MITB match but it was switched to Miz -McCool does not get any special privilege for being married to Undertaker that's all that I remember. There's more but all these were pretty interesting Overall, and this is not suprising, it seems Vince is scared to death about pushing new guys. Everything seems to go back to Cena and Orton
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6De5aM08qg...feature=related Listen closely that's actually Stephanie doing the voice over (rather poorly) for the female cop.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
The anonymous GM is getting mostly negative reviews but I'm kind of indifferent. It's a somewhat clever, if not lazy way to set up matches without having to have a GM character shoved down your throat. It's been going on too long though (8 months). They've booked themselves in a corner now because there is no way they can reveal someone and have it make any sense in storyline (the jumping from heel to face, back to heel during the show, does he like Bret Hart or not?) According to Randazzo it was created because Vince hated all the possible GM names creative came up with
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[1996-07-27-WCW-Saturday Night] NWO Paid Announcement
Nash quoting the SNL sketch had us all rolling at the time. That sketch isn't *that* famous so the fact that he brings out this semi obscure reference combined with his facial expresssion and tone just killed us. Nash said in his shoot that it took them hours to shoot these because Hogan kept rambling and rambling and he and Hall wanted to talk in "Sound Bytes"
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Forgotten Good Workers/"Hey I Thought This Guy Was Supposed To Suck?"
Hell Vince was still trotting them out there as late as 1996!
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[1996-07-07-WCW-Bash at the Beach] Sting & Lex Luger & Randy Savage vs Scott Hall & Kevin Nash & Hulk Hogan
I have to admit Bobby comparing Psychosis to Peg Bundy in the opener of Bash at the Beach 96 always gets a laugh out of me. Tenay almost breaks several times trying not to laugh at Bobby's (and Dusty's) jokes. WCW was always a more serious product than the WWF and Bobby seemingly could not adjust save a few instances I guess the same can be said for Cornette not being able to adjust to the WWF style
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Indiana man sues WWE...
just was watching this sketch online a few weeks ago. Same thing entered my mind when I read this story!
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2010: The year where news stories were a lot more interesting than the wrestling
I actually thought RAW was much better this year. Not great but the early stuff with Nexus, the Mania build, and Batista's heel run stick out. Some of the stuff on NXT season 1 wasn't bad either Smackdown was cooled off by the move to SyFy
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[1996-06-23-WWF-King of the Ring] Shawn Michaels vs Davey Boy Smith
Owen tried to cover for Bulldog by saying Lothario pushed him off the top rope! Great ad lib from Owen Davey was obviously off in this match. The spot where they basically ran into each other mid ring and in what must have felt like a half hour stood there looking at each other before they improvised stood out as the worst flub the post match heel beatdown was great and the crowd went crazy for Warrior's save. Felt like a hot program
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
Hulk Hogan's mother, Ruth Bollea, passed away She actually made a few appearances on WWF television. In Hogan's post match celebration after beating Iron Sheik she is seen in the locker room and in a great real life moment seems scared to death to be around all the huge wrestlers. She also appeared on SNME at Cyndi Lauper's Mother's Day party
- [1996-06-16-WCW-Great American Bash] Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs Steve McMichael & Kevin Greene
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSEUN0vZAaM Meltzer talks about this angle all the time as the all time worst. It was voted 1981's Most Disgusting Promotional tactic. Don't know if this is the same promotion that Dave said Vince got ideas for 80s WWF wackiness and of course the monster was built as real and Andre killed the gimmick by ripping off the mask. Ha!
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
I hope so. That's one of the things that made wrestling fun as a kid. My previous statement wasn't an attempt to say credibilty no longer matters. It just never occurs to me to think about that stuff now. I haven't considered that aspect of wrestling in years. But I can definitely see kids being confused now
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
To show how much times have changed and how kayfabe is dead when Miz won the title it never occured to me to ponder whether he was "tough enough" or had credibilty. Didn't really enter my mind till this thread
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Active WWE wrestlers who were stars during the boom
as for storylines this decade, Jericho v Christian/Trish, HHH v Batista, Rey v Eddy custody angle, Eddy v JBL, and Cena v Umaga stick out to me. Not all of them were great but I remember liking large chunks of all those programs
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Active WWE wrestlers who were stars during the boom
I think it was Sean (Liska) who made the point that if WWE only held cards in Dallas, Orlando and Chicago you would think that WWE was just as on fire as it was in 2000. The heat is there sometimes. Just not as much as 2000
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Comments that don't warrant a thread 2010-2011
I *think* this is the exact point Kevin Nash was trying to make online a few weeks ago and in his shoot with Waltman. He just couldn't make it without sounding like a jealous douche
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Active WWE wrestlers who were stars during the boom
They weren't inflated at the time. It was an example of rising tides lifting all boats to be sure, but you had midcarders and jobbers taking home downsides never before seen (or since, really). A lot of people not at the top got accustomed to boom level guarantees and when those weren't rolling in anymore they decided it was time to move on. right away Trish Stratus and Lita come to mind here. They both got huge downside guarentees with doing very little in the business (plus Lita sold a bunch of merchandise). No doubt business falling was a factor in the quitting pretty early on as they were used to those big payoffs
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Bobby Heenan DVD
the Hayes and Bellomo matches are both really really good. slight tangent. Anyone notice that many AWA matches tended to have the heel beat down the face, face makes comeback, face comeback is quickly cut off, short period of heel dominance, then the "real" babyface comeback and then whatever the finish was. It was an interesting formula and often made AWA matches seem longer than they were. And that's not meant as a criticism and had no idea that Bobby's daughter was used as an extra in several vignettes (obviously she was not acknowledged as such). He calls her a little brat in one of them! Ha!
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Vince McMahon vs. The World
It's a copout but I can see both sides of the "WWF limiting big moves" debate. I can totally see the WWF side as if you save the big moves for big moments/shows they obviously mean more and can be promoted as major events in future angles. Plus they are more dramatic. But if you're a fan who loves workrate and highspots than you obviously weren't going to be satisfied. I tend to agree with the WWF side of things but I can totally see the other point
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[1996-06-03-WWF-Raw] Interview: Goldust
you know RAW wasn't *that* bad in 1996. There was some silly stufff going on in the undercard and Shawn was miscast as a happy go lucky babyface but there were signs of a more adult themed product that would come to fruition a year later
- [1996-05-21-ECW-TV] Pulp Fiction
- [1996-04-08-WWF-Raw] Shawn Michaels vs Jerry Lawler