Ditch
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A merger that, somehow, makes a lot of sense.
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Cheating to beat the freaking Beverly Brothers in '93.
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edit: Wrong thread.
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Link doesn't work...?
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For DVDVR 145 (not linked right now so it took FOREVER to find), Dean reviewed a Masato Tanaka vs Kuroda match, and griped about how spotty and overkill-y it was. Then he went back to a positive review of their '98 match and said "Sounds like I GREW and they didn't." Daniels is a perfect example of "didn't grow".
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Really good article, albeit sad.
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You couldn't pay me enough to google that.
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I will take "what" over "this is awesome" every day and twice on Sunday.
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When they repeat the same couple lines about a dozen times in the first couple minutes, you know they don't have anything. Sure enough a really generic worked shoot is 'proof' that WWE is ripping off a UK indy.
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I doubt any of us are planning on getting that set so I think spoiling wouldn't be a problem.
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RVD/Lynn did have a "we're gonna put on a good show" vibe, but it's not like they kicked out of each others' finishers ten times and deliberately tried to do a MOTY. RVD and Lynn spent enough time in Japan and probably watched plenty of other stuff, they knew how to do 'epic'. They kept it at "two good athletes trying hard" and it worked. Bryan Danielson starting in late '05 was SORTA like that. "Best in the world", tons of 25+ minute singles matches that tried to pretty much go as far as the opponent could... but he's good enough at structure and psychology that it was organic more often than heavy-handed.
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During Liger's ROH interview, when asked about favorite matches he TOTALLY no-sold it because he wouldn't break kayfabe. And that was a "shoot". I distinctly recall a Steiners vs "Fire & Ice" promo where the teams were face to face and looking intense while talking about tearing the house down. My first thought was "should they really be saying that?", and I was around 14 years old.
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One would hope that prime Cena is held to a higher standard than '94 Baba, who was capable of being fun/entertaining but was not in legit MOTYCs (WON ratings aside).
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There's a rainbow of botchedness, if you will. The Tenryu enzuigiri is a classic example. NEVER executed crisply, not once. But most of the time is made contact, and given Tenryu's build it looked like it had to hurt the opponent. Heck a lot of the time it looked more painful than your average 'barely brush the back of opponent's head with your foot' enzui; Tenryu is belting the other guy with his whole lower leg! Most of all it looks like he's pushing himself to his physical limits. It certainly doesn't bring the match to a screeching halt and make you think "well he blew that one", killing the suspension of disbelief.
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Dave pretty much set the tone for how a match was received in '93. Kobashi vs Bossman got a meager ** and isn't talked about despite being part of Kobashi's much-heralded 1993, and the quasi-heralded Bossman-in-AJ run. Any way you slice it, it was a lesser match from '93 AJ. How does WWE TV stack up with peak AJ TV, since we're discussing 'best TV product ever'. I think a better comparison would be WWE TV to, say, three or four '80s territories, since WWE has so much airtime.
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It drives me nuts, makes the matches very hard to watch, and is a huge part why everyone looks "decent". It's a production trick. And those of us like El-P and myself who aren't used to it and only watch occasional matches can't NOT fixate on it. How long has it been like this? I don't remember it being that way when I stopped watching weekly in 2003.
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Like I can remember what happened back in..... January 2011? Oh.
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I don't know what Taue quite fits that thread