Matt D
DVDVR 80s Project
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Tom, What did that air on? 91-92 WCW is amazing for the sheer number of fun and random matches they just gave away on random TV shows. -
What's the best Darsow/Neidhart match from FL? I see Hector Guerrero/Coco Samoa and Youngbloods as potential feuds.
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Looking at this, you have Rockers vs Powers of Pain as your (solely) WWF MOTY at ****, followed by a tie between 12/28 Piper vs Perfect and 10/30 Rockers vs Harts at *** 3/4 each. Also, Lightning Kid vs Jerry Lynn (PWA 10/90) at ****3/4 is your US match of the year by this. Is that how you feel still?
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I know Buddy Rogers was one of Stevens mentors but I can't remember him bumping like that from the few matches I saw, but they may have been the wrong ones to see it in.
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From stuff from 92/93, I'd put in to the pot the MSG Nasty Boys vs Money Inc match, maybe one of the Natural Disasters ones (I'd have to rewatch), and I've got nothing against that Money Inc/Doink vs Tatanka/Steiners match. Razor/Marty vs IRS/Diesel is pretty fun too. If we're serious about making a top ten for Rotunda. The Rotunda vs Somers match from the AWA set is okay too.
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Short answer: Eddie Gilbert. The long answer involves a WarGames match with a new Horsemen of Barry/Sid/DOOM vs Flair/Arn/Sting/Luger at Wrestlewar, so we don't need to get into that. but yeah, Eddie Gilbert. No way Turner couldn't offer him enough to do it, even if he was living out his dream by being heel Lawler vs Lawler, basically.
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In elementary school, in 90, kids only cared about WWF. I had one friend who was the son of a friend of my mother's and that's who I got into WCW from. I think there was a good span of 6 months when I was only watching WWF and not watching WCW too. It was also a case that WWF ran the Boston Garden and WCW didn't run anywhere near me, really. The most important thing was this, though: Superstars came on at 12. Wrestling challenge came on at 1. When you're a kid in the 80s-early 90s, Saturday morning cartoons is a weekly routine. That was when you got your new cartoons for the week. Once noon hit, however, they were over and there was nothing else. Wrestling filled that gap so naturally. None of this answers the op though. My question on that is this: in the 80s, what percentage of everyone had cable?
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How the hell does Yoshi Tatsu still have a job?
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Well there's the story that London and Kendrick tell. About how they got to visit Titan Towers with Snitsky and they're walking with Shane McMahon who's super happy to see Gene, and as they walk by the LOD photo on the wall, Shane looks to them and goes "this is the last time tag team wrestling mattered to me." or something like that.
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Morton was very over. Check out the crowd reaction to some of those early angles. Flair also drew 15,000 when Road Warrior Hawk challenged him on the Great American Bash tour in Philly. Vince didn't need to run Hogan/Michaels. Both were babyfaces. Bret vs Savage is really the closest a tag team wrestler got to interacting with the top singles stars in the era, and that only happened one time. The point was that the NWA treated their tag teams as stars on the same level as their singles performers, where in the WWF, they were an isolated division. I'm not saying it's not without its own set of flaws, but I am saying that the NWA would have suffered more from the loss of the Road Warriors or Rock & Roll Express than the WWF would have from the loss of the Hart Foundation or British Bulldogs. There are some examples. Hogan and Savage had the Twin Towers angle. Hart wasn't just involved with Savage in a match but also in the angle where they helped Honky to set up the Mega Powers in the first place. Hogan+Demolition+Jake was a pretty high level Survivor Series team. But yeah, in general, it was just not the way WWF operated. They booked long term programs in very stultified ways. On the other hand, I actually think that by running multiple tours, the top tag teams might have been more important. I'd love for someone better at it to run the numbers, but I think the Bulldogs were draws. I think US Express was a draw. Or Demolition. Or the Harts. How often did they helm B and C shows? How did those shows do. Those are my questions.
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Part of me feels like this note is a dastardly JvK trap for me, so I am keeping a cautious distance.
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You had tag champs anchoring B WWF House shows. I nominate John to look at that and attendance figures.
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His shoot is okay so far as shoots go. The beginning of his career is actually fairly interesting. You get, more from him than from anyone else I've ever listen to a shoot of, the sense that "yeah, it was just a job." The best part is when he talks about the boat. And yes, I love the promo where he's yelling at his secretaries. That was really the start of his post Money Inc life. Also, I love this picture. Neither here nor there, but one thing I've gotten from shoots is that almost all of my favorite wrestlers are either the guys who grew up with wrestling in their lives or grew up watching it. There are a few exceptions, but just a few. According to Patera, Flair had wrestling magazines strewn around his room all the time before he got into the business. Basically, all the best wrestling is just fan fiction.
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Regarding Sid's 98-00 work, I always had the sense that he was trying very hard, but that whatever he was doing was not pro wrestling. He didn't quite understand the rules. Maybe he learned from a correspondence course. It was sort of like having a very talented athlete be taken off the bench in the middle of a football game and think that he was playing, I don't know, softball instead.