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It all matters a lot less now than it did ten years ago because the world is larger and more scattered but yeah, Meltzer's Edge affection has always been baffling.

Christian, on the other hand, really, really got it. He's one of the best ever at taking a bunch of signature spots and moving them around from match to match.

I mean, I was just saying that it's frustrating that we've had ten years of arguments about Bruiser Brody or Tiger Mask or Dynamite Kid or Flair or Shawn or Lawler or WWF Bossman vs WWF Dibiase and we've reached certain points of mutual understanding if not entirely being convinced and it's tough to talk to someone who knows enough to be at the start of the argument but doesn't even know it exists and would call it patently absurd to hear it raised, let alone is at other side with us. It's just hard for me to actually take the time to listen to someone like that in so one-sided a way as a podcast. I'd almost rather have the total ignorance.

It's funny. I can get annoyed with Conrad for not having what I consider pretty basic knowledge or curiosity. I can get annoyed with Last for not being part of our circle where we've moved arguments forward from the conventional wisdom twenty years ago (but basically just in our circle and maybe with some people under 25).

Only middling WCW though.

Carrying Seth's genes?

I just caught up but my great wisdom, that once they hit the roof I started fast forwarding like crazy, is obviously unnecessary here.

I'm pretty deep in. Delaporte snuck his way back into the book unexpectedly because he did the announcing for WM3.

They had a very over act and it didn't work out. In this case, is that the act's fault or is it the company/booking/presentation/agenting, etc. or both? That's the question isn't it?

What was "North Georgia Wrestling Alliance" and why was Dusty booking it in 1991?

I think I know what you're thinking of. This is what I'm thinking of though:

1. And here I thought the announcer was just particularly poignant. 2. I also want a the name for that leg trap powerbomb flip we saw a lot in the first few weeks of matches and then haven't seen for most of the rest of 1957.

I'm so glad we have a name for this hold.

He is. I'm glad you're reading along to his thoughts at least.

Or 50s French wrestling so you can help us work out all the cultural bits?

Right now, nothing is filming. There are some things in the can (and schedules have been moved around; for instance Killing Eve starts a few weeks early tonight). Seasons are being shortened. MLB is looking for solutions, etc. I think we'll see the effects of this more in a month or two than even now as there'll be a gap where networks just don't have product. So long as Vince can keep producing it, I think there'll be some room for supplemental deals with them filling gaps. Ratings have to be down for almost everything, so it's all relative.

So... two years later, I'm obviously proven brutally, shamefully wrong.

Mark had me on to talk a little about the French Catch stuff. I stumbled over names, forgot things (like mentioning Inca Peruano), said the same thing three times, tried not to talk loud enough to bug my wife, etc. Then I totally forgot Bull Curry's name as we talked about Houston a bit. BUT hey, it's twenty minutes of me babbling in case anyone wants to hear it: https://tinyurl.com/winterpod83 Very cool that you found that poster, @ohtani's jacket. We get one Tommy Mann match later on in October 57 and I'm curious to see him. Here's here vs Chemoul briefly:

I really liked the Punk match. I did not like the Bryan match a lot. More than two but fewer than a dozen. My general theory is that everyone loves the Brock matches because they break all the rules and therefore feel more visceral than everything else, but if you break the rules too much nothing matters. It's better to use the rules to make something than to just tear them down because nothing feels like it matters anymore. It's just the damn company can't make anything matter anymore so there's no benefit in investing and it's easier to just let the noise in and thrash about.

Yeah, I'm going to just go and count a German Suplex as a finisher for the sake of this experiment.

And he's done it maybe twice since he came back in the 2010s? If that. I switched windows to write that and came back to see Drew holding the belt.

I looked away to post here and maybe do one other small thing so I missed the beginning of the match and I came back to the words "Another F5". You know what guys? I don't care what any of you think. I hate Brock Lesnar matches.

I'd rather watch, eh, let's go with Legends of Tomorrow, since I don't watch Supernatural, than Sports, so I was perfectly ok with that.

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This is slowly eliminating my memory of that Orton/Edge thing. Maybe they ARE successfully changing the timeline.