well Scott Chris Benoit took the life of two other humans and then took his own. How that is at the same level as Owen Hart I don't know

I assumed he was referencing Eddie as the second guy, not Owen.

Different circumstances but they were both tragic. I don't see why I'd slam him for that statement.

So which was the best makeshift Marcus Bagwell babyface tag team of the 90s: Stars and Stripes, The American Males, or the team with Scorpio that should have had a name and didn't?

 

Remember when it seemed like Bagwell had a future and was decent-good in the ring? Yeah, the neck injury happened, but he really should have come back from that a bigger star than ever. Sadly, the ill-advised heel turn killed that. But I think more than anything, he's yet another casualty of the late 90s WCW drug scene and party culture that seemed to chew up and spit out a lot of guys that were around at that time.

Stars & Stripes was the best IMO. The team with Scorp was good but they seemed off as a pair to me while Patriot was still damn good and they worked well together.

American Males were closer to being a top team in WCW then the two others. Flair put them both over on his shoot when he talked about their match with him and Arn. Plus, they had the catchy theme song.

Scorp/Bags were clearly the best team of the bunch. They had the best Blondes match ever, the good match v. Eaton/Arn from Slamboree, a fun series with the Nasty's and probably some other shit I'm forgetting.

Awesome story from the 1/8/01 WON in the feature about Mark Madden getting fired by WCW:

 

Lex Luger had been claiming he had 4% bodyfat for months. One week, he slipped and said 5%, so Madden mentioned that Luger gained 1% bodyfat. When Luger found out, he freaked out, so he decided to make fun of "Madden's less than flattering physique" the following week.

Between that, the Ferrari analogy with Johnny Ace and the tag match at Greed, Luger was on quite the trip in early '01.

So which was the best makeshift Marcus Bagwell babyface tag team of the 90s: Stars and Stripes, The American Males, or the team with Scorpio that should have had a name and didn't?

 

Remember when it seemed like Bagwell had a future and was decent-good in the ring? Yeah, the neck injury happened, but he really should have come back from that a bigger star than ever. Sadly, the ill-advised heel turn killed that. But I think more than anything, he's yet another casualty of the late 90s WCW drug scene and party culture that seemed to chew up and spit out a lot of guys that were around at that time.

I kinda suspect Bagwell has asbergers or some similar impairment. Jim Ross told a story on one of the roundtables that essentially Bagwell's mother called in sick for him. Add that with all the nonsense including Judy Bagwell in comedy spots and I get the impression that he may not have been entirely comfortable on his own.

Not to derail the Vince vs Everybody thread with Bossman discussion. Watch 98 WWF and he is great. He carries himself like he is the man and you buy him being able to fight guys like Austin and Undertaker. It is hard to believe it is the same guy who was floundering in WCW six months before.

 

Also I think is just incredibly cool that at the 88 Survivor Series he beats the hell out of Hulk Hogan with a night stick then ten years late he does it to Hogan's successor Steve Austin. I love that whole angle where Bossman is suppose to injure Austin in the first round of the WWF title tourney only to have X-Pac and Regal fight to a draw giving Austin a bye.

Anyone else kind of like Vicious and Delicious in 1997 WCW? I loved how Norton would completely no sell Bagwell's gyrating and showboating and stick to kicking ass

I never remember that team having that name. Not saying they didn't, I remember their matches, but that's how forgettable it must have been.

The Vicious and Delicious team was probably the team that Bagwell brought the most to. They were two guys who worked better as a pair then they did on their own.

Bischoff calls into an obscure blogtalkradio show flipping his shit over the dude's facebook comments asking for Eric dismissal:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/michaelbarton...overing-all-the

 

Listen from the start. Neither can prove their point.

I enjoyed V & D's work as a team. Apart they sucked but together they where fun. @ the time it reminded me of everything that I loved about Tag teams.

 

Neither where ever going to be a top tier singles wrestler but as a team they where a credible threat to the tag titles

Bischoff is an awesome troll.

Bischoff is an awesome troll.

Only wish that he called into CageSideRadio. Eric and Bix could have their rematch 10 years in the making.

Bischoff is an awesome troll.

Only wish that he called into CageSideRadio. Eric and Bix could have their rematch 10 years in the making.

 

I can't say I'm not tempted to either ask him to do a podcast or troll him into calling me angrily.

Does Bischoff not get he did that guy a huge favor?

I know we have a Meltzer thread but this in context of that radio show above. His reply lol to the show:

 

LOL at Bischoff only being on air talent.

 

LOL about him bring up licensees. As of the summer, TNA had only one licensee, there before Hogan got there, and at the time their position as far as staying with TNA was hanging by a thread.

 

LOL about TV ratings being up.

 

House shows were up at one point but they haven't been lately.

 

A business discussion consisting of exactly zero business facts being brought up and lots of name calling.

 

Real enlightening and telling.

 

Nobody got Bischoff'd because that would take a factual argument. Somebody got out name called so Bischoff won by second grader rules. Anything past seventh grader rules and it was just an embarrasment.

Reading that thread on the BOARD: can someone explain when and why Bischoff started hating on Meltzer again? We should be past the stage where people in the business are calling him "a piece of parasitic shit".

Reading that thread on the BOARD: can someone explain when and why Bischoff started hating on Meltzer again? We should be past the stage where people in the business are calling him "a piece of parasitic shit".

Meltzer doesnt let anyone forget how badly he screwed the WCW pooch as well as restricting Eric con man act by doing the same.

I take it everyone has seen the trailer for Lacey Von Erich's "first-person POV woman-abuse-disguised-as-wrestling-fetish video"?

I did like how Dave didn't make it clear that he was linking to softcore fetish porn on the Observer website:

 

--Lacey Von Erich is not done with wrestling after all. She's at http://www.ringdivashop.com/catalog/produc...roducts_id=2264 I wonder what Fritz Von Erich would think of this if he was still alive. Not that I have any clue how Fritz Von Erich would think of anything.

That LVE video is tragic - they at least usually PRETEND to wrestle as match on those things. She might as well be naked. I might buy it, then. No, probably not.

 

Anyway, can I just say how much I enjoyed the commentary team of Punk and Stanford (sp?) on Superstars this week? On the main event, it was like Heenan and Monsoon. Beautiful old school match calling, while Punk constantly interjects with sarcasms and jokes. The match was really good but made better by the voiceover.