I'm most of the way through the Mildred Burke bio and I have to say its outstanding.

I split the Gabe/Torch stuff off into its own thread.

 

That's a great example of comments that do warrant a thread.

I split the Gabe/Torch stuff off into its own thread.

 

That's a great example of comments that do warrant a thread.

Cheers Loss. I sometimes a bit too gun shy about starting threads on here.

Awesome, it was turning into a decent discussion and I didn't want it to get lost in this thread.

I'm convinced that all the fat girl angles they've done in the last few years (Piggie James, the Vicki stuff) is not actually a rib on the women who are taunted. It's a shot at the Hardys and their fanbase.

What I want to know is if WWE hires them back eventually or if they're gone for good. I don't care either way, but I am curious to know if the door is now closed to them permanently.

I think there's a definite chance of Jeff being back once these charges are behind him and they feel they need a headliner. The company has done a decent job pushing new people in the last year (Sheamus, Barrett/Nexus, Danielson, Miz, Del Rio...even Morrison right now they're showing a real commitment to getting him over as a main event level face), they clearly understand the need to create new stars. But Undertaker, HHH, Kane, Edge, Rey and Big Show are probably nearing the end, Cena and Orton have the potential to break down at some point.....at some point they'll get desperate and look to Jeff.

 

Plus, even with the test failures his performance was top notch in his last run, and has remained pretty consistent in TNA. With him it seems to be more a case of enjoying the recreational drugs a little too much, not a "this guy is killing himself with steroids/pain pills/booze" type of situation like Kurt Angle.

 

Never say never, but I think Matt is gone for good.

I would think the Hardys' biggest obstacle to a return to WWE would be their inability to enjoy whatever substances they chose to partake in without YouTube somehow ending up involved.

A podcast with Jamie Dundee

http://whosslammingwho.podomatic.com/entry...T06_20_43-08_00

 

Description sounds fun.

Both Hardys will almost certainly be back at some point. Either they get fed up of TNA, TNA gets fed up of them or the Carters give up and sell their promotion to the McMahons to recoup some of their losses.

I think the Jeff would have a bit of a problem coming back. The WWE tends to avoid people when they get on Death Watch. Not 100%, but pretty consistent. Jeff has no desire to stay remotely sober, and the WWE would have very little cover if he drops dead on their watch: (i) all those flunked tests, (ii) their prior parting ways with him over dope, and (iii) his legal issues.

 

I wouldn't say "never say never", but he's at the level they tend to side step.

 

John

I don't think Jeff's currently on Death Watch. He's clearly far from sober, but he isn't quite as messed up as he was in the past (end of his first WWE run to the time he returned). A lot of that is due to TNA's much more lax drug policy allowing him to work while pretty messed up. He'd get another chance if he could piss clean for them. I mean WWE was still interested in him after he was busted for drugs and were making WrestleMania plans for him before he returned to TNA. I doubt they'd be quite as high on him today, but they'd probably still risk it due to their dearth of main event talent.

Watch Raw and Smackdown and tell me if they are in a position to not take them back.

If Linda's even somewhat considering sticking with politics, there's no way Jeff gets hired back anytime soon.

We'll see, maybe beggers can be choosers.

Yes Jim Ross, after hearing it on every big show for 3+ years, we *do* in fact know that Lex Luger graduated college with a 3.78 GPA.

Anybody else think that the recent Morrison push might be related to Tough Enough? Since the other six people who won Tough Enough are no longer with the company, they need to spotlight the one winner whose left to make the new series mean something, and since Morrison is the only guy around, he's getting bumped up.

Anybody else think that the recent Morrison push might be related to Tough Enough? Since the other six people who won Tough Enough are no longer with the company, they need to spotlight the one winner whose left to make the new series mean something, and since Morrison is the only guy around, he's getting bumped up.

It's possible. They started pushing him late summertime/early fall I think, which was definitely before the new TE was officially a go, but they might have had the idea kicking around

 

My feeling is when he had that random falls count anywhere match with Sheamus his performance was pretty great, and he got way more over in the match than they expected, and they thought, "hey, we might have something here". After that they really started pushing the idea of him having unorthodox "parkour" offense which could win or lose him a match against anyone

 

I'm not sure how much farther this push is going to go, but every time I expect them to stop it they just keep going, so it wouldn't shock me to see him with a world title this year

what on earth is going on with this crazy twitter/youtube feud between OMEGA and Val Venis?

Here is a question. What value do the divas really have? They no longer do merchandise, ratings fall whenever they are on screen and they are no kind of attendance or ppV (not that anyone is now) draw. In the PG era they can't even be used as T & A

 

Yet they are as big a part of the show as they were in 2000. They should get rid of most of the women for a few years til the novelty returns.

http://www.justin.tv/tsteck160/b/276859807

 

Okay, first off this is worth watching because anything Dusty does on WCW Prime is worth watching and the first minute is pretty funny but what I want to know is just who the heck STAR BLAZER was? His stuff was not pretty here. This should only be up for a few days probably.

Was it silly of me to be utterly convinced the first HOF inductee to be announced Monday was Randy Savage? The whole lead-up to it had me genuinely convinced that's who would be announced.

Savage should really be the headliner whatever year they finally get around to inducting him (I think some day, they will), but I could see them putting him below a headliner just to be petty.

From the latest Classic Observer from November 1993, USWA section:

 

Also on 11/1, The Moondogs defeated a masked team of Leatherface & Dead Head (Mike Samples & long-time area jobber Ken Raper) managed by Downtown Bruno

 

 

PLEASE tell me Memphis did a gimmick where Raper was a DeadHead.

Is there any plan at all to reveal the anonymous GM at any point ever?

I hope so, but I also hope it isn't Triple H or Vince McMahon...or any McMahon for that matter.