February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495213 Wrestling needs to be done with owners, GM and commisioners storylines, like, yesterday. It got old by 2001, really.
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495215 Wrestling needs to be done with owners, GM and commisioners storylines, like, yesterday. It got old by 2001, really.But...but...that made money once! Sure, it was 15 years ago, but it did! It HAS to work again!
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495216 Wrestling needs to be done with owners, GM and commisioners storylines, like, yesterday. It got old by 2001, really. Yeah, the great thing about Jack Tunney was you saw him 4 times a year and he always made an important announcement or ruling before shuffling back off to the golf course.
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495217 HHH was removed as Raw GM but he's still COO. And Vince is still chairman. Yet he has the power to fire the RAW GM, but not to make himself the RAW GM.
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495223 HHH was removed as Raw GM but he's still COO. And Vince is still chairman. Yet he has the power to fire the RAW GM, but not to make himself the RAW GM. We need that Konnan quote John. Now.
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495225 HHH was removed as Raw GM but he's still COO. And Vince is still chairman. Yet he has the power to fire the RAW GM, but not to make himself the RAW GM. And he apparently only has that power while Raw is on the air. He was all set to fire Laurinaitis before Undertaker showed up, but then he did nothing the entire rest of the week.
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495227 I see it more as Vince is Steve Jobs in the mid 80s where he owned part of the company but he's such an asshole the board voted him out of any position of power. So instead of leaving to create Pixar, Vince is staying around to deliver messages for the board which is really the most ridiculous part of the kayfabe WWE power structure. To think that the TV character Mr. McMahon would be reduced to playing messenger boy is more of a suspension of disbelief fail than anything else. What's weird is that they seem to be booking HHH as taking over Linda's role more than Vince. It was always told on TV that she ran the business end while Vince ran the TV shows/matchmaking. Now with all this "good for business" talk from Hunter it's as if that's the role he's being slotted for and he won't be a major TV character when the time comes where "all of this is his".
February 18, 201213 yr comment_5495229 Maybe the anonymous Board of Directors is the same people that were on the Executive Championship Committee in WCW. I hope Sonny Onoo under a pseudonym and Woman From France are involved.
February 19, 201213 yr comment_5495237 I think more thought has been put into the logic of the WWE's storyline power structure in these last few posts than anything coming from WWE creative regarding the matter.
February 19, 201213 yr comment_5495238 Wrestling needs to be done with owners, GM and commisioners storylines, like, yesterday. It got old by 2001, really. They've been doing it for so long that I legit don't think ppl in charge realise you can do "story" based wrestling without having an authority figure as a central character. Not even a WWE problem either as it's spread industry wide at this point, Indies, Japan, Mexico, all over. It can make for a great angle when done right but year after year of this crap is just too much.
February 19, 201213 yr comment_5495239 They've been doing it for so long that I legit don't think ppl in charge realise you can do "story" based wrestling without having an authority figure as a central character. Not even a WWE problem either as it's spread industry wide at this point, Indies, Japan, Mexico, all over.Yeah. The vast majority of the shows I've ever worked have constantly had some kind of power-struggle angles happening. Some are NWO "heel faction trying to ruin the company" stuff, some are Commissioner/President/GM storylines ripping off old Mr. McMahon storylines, and every once in a while you'll get a fed-vs-fed invasion deal. All of which would be nice if they didn't happen all the goddamn time on every goddamn show.
February 19, 201213 yr comment_5495247 I've always thought that your figurehead can be a bland, generic old white dude in most cases, because seeing charismatic wrestlers next to an everyday guy makes the wrestlers look more like stars because of the strong contrast. An effective figurehead doesn't need to be a strong promo. Occasionally, you get a Bob Armstrong or an Eddie Marlin that is a strong promo and can help sell things, but they're ex-wrestlers and are presented in a smart way. With those guys, maybe you can do more adventurous things. Jack Tunney being a pasty old white dude with no personality totally worked in the 80s WWF setting, because it made all the larger-than-life characters seem even more so.
February 19, 201213 yr comment_5495264 Seems like the GM role has taken the place of managers for the most part. Not a good thing.
May 1, 201213 yr comment_5501312 Lordy... there are 26 pages of this thread? I was hoping there were only 5 to make it easier to refresh my memory on what we all thought of Trip taking over. John
May 1, 201213 yr comment_5501314 And 40 pages for the Summer of Punk. Ah, we were so passionate about the WWE back in those days.
June 11, 201213 yr comment_5506254 John Laurinaitis is no longer listed in the group of WWE Executive Officers. Hunter has taken his place as Executive Vice President, Talent and Live Events. http://corporate.wwe.com/company/executive.jsp http://corporate.wwe.com/company/bios/p_levesque.jsp Pretty much expected from the standpoint of HHH's position, but I am curious what that means for Big Johnny's position in the company.
June 11, 201213 yr comment_5506255 John Laurinaitis is no longer listed in the group of WWE Executive Officers. Hunter has taken his place as Executive Vice President, Talent and Live Events. http://corporate.wwe.com/company/executive.jsp http://corporate.wwe.com/company/bios/p_levesque.jsp Pretty much expected from the standpoint of HHH's position, but I am curious what that means for Big Johnny's position in the company. This happened a long time ago, I remember seeing it in the Observer. It doesn't seem to mean anything.
June 11, 201213 yr comment_5506262 Are you sure? I don't remember HHH having "and Live Events" added to his title or Laurinaitis losing Executive Officer status.
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506315 Are you sure? I don't remember HHH having "and Live Events" added to his title or Laurinaitis losing Executive Officer status. I swear I remember reading something in the Observer about Laurinaitis losing his executive title and reporting to HHH, but I have no idea when this happened or which back issues to look through. I thought his EVP Talent Relations title was only for TV at this point.
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506318 Wasn't the talent department reorganized when HHH took over developmental? I know it was reported that he would be Johnny's boss in the new organizational chart but it wasn't seen as a demotion.
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506319 I remembered having a discussion on the F4W board about the difference between HHH and Laurinaitis's titles when HHH had the more generic "EVP, Talent" title, so I looked it up and it was from the beginning of March. That was a couple weeks before Ty Bailey was fired. Googling around, the earliest mention of the expansion of HHH's title to include the live events department is the press release about the Full Sail U partnership a month ago. I'm pretty sure that Laurinaitis reporting to HHH goes back to HHH getting the "EVP, Talent" title, which happened last year. HHH taking over the department completely was inevitable but Laurinaitis officially getting demoted (and possibly fired from the office job since he's suddenly working a lot of house shows) feels like a bigger story than how it's being reported.
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506320 This isn't that new, just not pushed: Last year's Annual Report / DEF 14A Statement filed 3/18/2011: Other Executive Officers [...] John Laurinaitis has served as Executive Vice President, Talent Relations, since March 2009, and as Senior Vice President, Talent Relations, since February 2007. Prior to that, Mr. Laurinaitis was Vice President, Talent Relations, since June 2004, and Director of Talent Relations from June 2001. Trip wasn't listed as an Executive Officer. From the Annual Report / DEF 14A Statement filed 03/16/12: Other Executive Officers [...] Paul Levesque has been our Executive Vice President, Talent since August 2011. In this role, he oversees the talent relations and talent development departments, training of WWE Superstars and Divas, and management of worldwide recruitment. In addition to his talent duties, Mr. Levesque has continually had an integral role behind the scenes; as a director and producer he works to shape the creative direction and storylines of WWE’s programming. Mr. Levesque debuted as a WWE Superstar in 1995 and has captured every major championship, headlined thousands of WWE events, and entertained millions around the world. He is the national spokesperson for Muscular Dystrophy’s “Make a Muscle, Make a Difference” campaign. Mr. Levesque has had starring roles in commercials, television programs, talk shows and feature-length films. He is author of Make the Game: Triple H’s Approach to a Better Body. Mr. Levesque is the husband of Stephanie McMahon and the son-in-law of Vincent McMahon. John
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506321 The WWE also called him it in the old Trip Shoots On Meltzer thing earlier this year: http://teaspoon-and-whitey.info/2012/03/20...of-fcws-closing John
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506322 Scooped by a fucking Triple H fansite: http://www.klqwrestling.com/2011/09/paul-l...-executive.html
June 12, 201213 yr comment_5506323 So yeah, old shit. Johnny has been demoted since at least last August, though perhaps got a new increased demotion. But this all looks like it was done back at the Trip Is Taking Over period, not long after this thread started last year. John
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