ROH is coming to San Antonio this weekend. Debating on if I should spend $20 to go to the show. Edwards and Richards are no longer there so that is a plus.

Who's on the card?

http://www.rohwrestling.com/live/events/20...-san-antonio-tx

I like Adam Cole so at least the main would be fun.

Honestly Jacobs v. Alexander is the most interesting match to me on paper

That's a big main event - they've been building that Briscoe/Cole match for months.

 

Also looks like Bobby Fish is back from Japan (he was not in Pittsburgh). reDRagon is awesome.

 

No Hero or Styles but otherwise very solid.

If Hero was on the card I probably wouldn't have to shell out $20.

Just 20 clams to go see some live wrestling? Of course you go. You spend more than 20 bucks a week on Beatles crap. :lol

RoH announced today that they're returning to cable/satellite PPV. They hyped this up as a huge announcement, but in the day and age of the Network I find this to be a step in the wrong direction. The Network works, it's creating a cheaper model for wrestling fans to get their fix. Requesting that the fans pay $25+ to one event isn't really a viable option moving forward I don't think. I'm not sure how RoH would do it, but at some point I think that they, and any number of indies who want to be bigger, are going to have to take on a streaming model close to that of the Network, because PPV just isn't the way to go anymore I don't think.

I have to give ROH credit. While every other wrestling company on Earth is moving away from outdated wrestling business models like syndicated television and Pay Per View, they're diving head-first into them. On the plus side, ROH will finally be dead by the end of the year and they can sell their tape library to a company who might actually do something interesting with it.

I wonder how much influence the WWE Net and it pissing off the cable companies had on this deal coming to fruition?

In all fairness, there's probably still money to be made with traditional PPV. Whether ROH makes any of it is another story entirely...

It failed miserably when the company was much hotter, I can't see it doing any better now.

It failed miserably when the company was much hotter, I can't see it doing any better now.

I think it has more of a chance to be successful now. While they were much hotter in 2007, they were also only running house shows and then selling them on DVD. Now, they have actual television to try to advertise and sell PPV with.

I cannot imagine a non-hardcore viewing one of the ROH tv shows and saying "boy there is a show I want to shell out money to see!"

 

It failed miserably when the company was much hotter, I can't see it doing any better now.

I think it has more of a chance to be successful now. While they were much hotter in 2007, they were also only running house shows and then selling them on DVD. Now, they have actual television to try to advertise and sell PPV with.

 

 

It also wasn't carried by DirecTV and a number of large cable providers. Were the ppvs even live? I can't remember.

Not at all. they pretty much just randomly decided that one of their house show/DVD tapings would be a PPV taping. It would air roughly 2-3 months later.

That's what I thought. In that case, you can't possibly use the first try at PPV as a comparison. This is a live show being carried by more providers. I don't think it's going to be a big success or anything, but there were a lot of people ordering what were almost always awful quality iPPVs for not a lot less money. With these being HD and carried by so many providers, it would seem that Sinclair is putting at least a little bit of muscle behind the idea.

The fact that no one on this board gives a fuck about ROH is probably a bad sign for their viability. It means their product isn't even working for hardcores. I live in Baltimore and it hasn't once occurred to me to go to a taping in recent years. And I say that as someone who was a steady fan of the promotion as recently as 2008.

I disagree with this boards tastes being any indicator. Most of the board doesn't seem to have much interest in the big name indie companies, but interest still exists pretty much anywhere else you look online. The particular tastes of PWO don't tend to fall in line with the "average internet wrestling fan", whatever that might be these days.

I feel exactly the same way. I used to hit all the big shows in NY and since '08 haven't been to one until buying tickets for the NJ crew coming over next month.

I still pay attention and watch, periodically, the ROH shows. If I still had the push button ordering through the remote control deal, I'd order their ppvs.

I disagree with this boards tastes being any indicator. Most of the board doesn't seem to have much interest in the big name indie companies, but interest still exists pretty much anywhere else you look online. The particular tastes of PWO don't tend to fall in line with the "average internet wrestling fan", whatever that might be these days.

 

You don't think it's bad that a company trying to sell PPV to a national audience has few devotees on a hardcore wrestling board? I agree PWO is less indy-focused than other places, but I don't think it's a good sign.

I don't think it's a GOOD sign, but I don't see it as a BAD sign. We're far from representative of a national audience.

No, we're representative of people who desperately want to see good wrestling. And if you're not exciting us, your chance of exciting a broader audience seems poor. I mean, the reviews of New Japan here are more mixed than in most places. But it at least generates some discussion.

 

I take your point about the tastes here; I just think that if ROH were a hot product, people on PWO would talk about it more. And with that, I'll drop it.