Posted July 8, 201213 yr comment_5509615 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbpwm6_co...olition-w_sport This isn't a match which I would show anyone to argue that Demolition was great, but it was a really well put together tag with a great Colossal Connection performance. I loved Andre in this, as he plays heel in peril getting swarmed by Demolition and swatting them away like King Kong. He flips Eadie backward with a great looking punch which Ax sold like he broke his jaw. Cool spot with Haku missing a stinger splash while Andre strutted. Finish was a little weird with Smash taking a big bump to the floor and getting counted out. Fun stuff
July 8, 201213 yr comment_5509621 Phil summed it up when he said fun stuff. Where we disagree is whether it should even be a nomination. The punch Phil mentioned didn't have a great camera angle like the Lawler-Cole punch from RAW last year so I think Phil is projecting that it was a great punch. Who doesn't have great punches is Darsow. His offense sucked in this match which Phil agreed with. When he was "pounding" on the CCs, it was HBK-2003 level light. Andre was really fun with his mannerisms and Haku's offense was pretty great but I don't think it will stand out when all is said and done. No vote.
June 2Jun 2 comment_6030675 Andre the Giant & Haku vs. Demolition (MSG 12/28/89) - So this was the match that inspired my Demolition Doubt forum. My stance has softened on Demolition over the years because I would take 100 Demolitions over some of the tag teams of today. However, the jumping each time they club someone is still cheap especially when I just watched Ron Garvin strike without the benefit of cheap tricks. Andre punching Ax right in the face was awesome. Demolition working Andre over in the corner was wild and the crowd was really into it. I thought Phil was hyping up Andre in this so many years ago but he was right. Andre was awesome selling the damage and giving legit painful offense when fighting back. Still not feeling the nomination but not as pessimistic as I was in my youth.
June 23Jun 23 comment_6031705 On 6/2/2025 at 4:32 PM, iPad said: However, the jumping each time they club someone is still cheap especially when I just watched Ron Garvin strike without the benefit of cheap tricks. I'm obviously the Demolition guy so while I can't contribute in everything due to other commitments, I'd like to say something here. In general, this an awesome and timely effort and I'm glad you're doing it so comprehensively. The strength of Demolition is not necessarily in specific execution of offense, and I'd argue that specific execution isn't why you're necessarily watching WWF in the first place. People bought their offense as credible which on some level was good enough to me and in other ways is actually a plus without their stuff laid in because it speaks to their presence and how the offense is used. More importantly, cheap tricks are awesome. Cheap tricks are the entire point of pro wrestling. Accomplishing the absolute most with the absolute least. That's the beauty of pro wrestling. They should be rewarded and lauded, not punished! I couldn't be farther off from you on that statement. BUT the true strength of Demolition is (1) that they made babyfaces work for their offense in a heel-in-peril world relative to everyone else in the company and (2) that they wrestled a number of different heel teals with variety in structure and format and worked towards those teams strengths and subsumed themselves into the matches. Very much a structuring thing. (As an aside, I also won't defend a single Demolition vs Powers of Pain match; those are almost all crummy. Aside #2, I think they have a better case for a Greatest WWF Team because of the above as opposed to a Greatest List of Matches sort of argument. More of a moneyball sort of deal. So this project is maybe not the place to make the best case for them, and that's ok! Aside #3, That said, there are matches I'm strong on: this one, some of the Twin Towers ones, some of the BrainBusters ones, the MSG Rockers one, etc., but so much of the argument even for those are efficiency ones, where they accomplish a lot with a little or as much as possible with the exact right amount that they should give, and those are very hard arguments to get across in a "Great Match" sort of world. Efficiency isn't rewarded nearly as much as exceptionalism but efficiency made the world go round and showed a different way of understanding mastery of pro wrestling that I think we appreciate much more now than we did a few decades ago).
June 23Jun 23 comment_6031713 Cheap Trick is one of my favorite bands of all time. I will take their first 4 studio album stretch and put it up against anyone else's 4 album stretch (except for the Stones from 68-72).
