Scott Keith is not a journalist. I doubt he has backstage connections. Do not report news from Scott Keith.

Scot Keith never even reported it.

Obviously something he did twenty years ago influenced someone to cause this to happen, so he gets credited?

I'm probably just being dense, but I feel like I'm missing something. If it was a pre-meditated work (to clear the deck for the fatal-four-way participants), then why was Robinson giving the cross-arms to signal a legitimate injury for Rollins last night? Has the meta-booking reached a level that we're faking "real" injuries now?

I do think some type of disputed finish is probably best for that match just to keep the feud going.

That's what I figured. Ambrose losses because of interference or Seth hits him with the brief case or something. It gives a reason for another match without totally looking like a holding pattern as a clean win plus a rematch would.

Scot Keith never even reported it.

 

Right. In the future, anytime anybody wants to make a post that says "Scott Keith reported..." then they should stop themselves and delete said words.

In fairness to the guy posting on Keith's blog, he did link directly to a PWInsider page talking about the Rollins injury being a work.

 

http://pwinsider.com/article/86935/bray-rollins-and-more-wwe-injury-updates.html?p=1

Bryan and Dave were adamant that the injury was completely worked with the point being for fans to think it was real since they had the doctor run in and made sure to keep the cameras off him.

 

All I know is this meta-booking is starting to veer into "everything you see is fake except this segment right here" shooty-shoot Russoish bullshit.

In fairness to the guy posting on Keith's blog, he did link directly to a PWInsider page talking about the Rollins injury being a work.

 

http://pwinsider.com/article/86935/bray-rollins-and-more-wwe-injury-updates.html?p=1

 

 

I know. He absolutely did. It just got posted here as Scott Keith reporting it.

 

Scot Keith never even reported it.

 

Right. In the future, anytime anybody wants to make a post that says "Scott Keith reported..." then they should stop themselves and delete said words.

 

 

Other people write on his blog- this was by Brian Bayless. He's the one who got into the feud with PWInsider.

so Ambrose appears on SD and yes gets beat down again. This is starting to look awfully familiar

I was really surprised people thought Seth's injury was a shoot - I know we are coming off the heels of Wade Barrett's injury, it was late in a slog of an 3 hour episode and the cameras constantly switch but Seth clearly landed the opposite leg - the one closest to the ringsteps to the one he grabs:

Anyone familiar with Ambrose from his Jon Moxley days could tell that that guy just had SOMETHING...a presence, an inate star charisma. I'll be the first to admit, though, that I never saw him with any babyface potential. Once it became apparent that The Shield was ending, I thought certainly he would break away and become the super scummy, top heel he seemed destined to be.

 

I can understand where you are coming from but Moxley did have his playful side. Absolute Intense Wrestling put this old promo up two days ago:

For Sami Callihan's sake I hope this promo was one take.

I was really surprised people thought Seth's injury was a shoot - I know we are coming off the heels of Wade Barrett's injury, it was late in a slog of an 3 hour episode and the cameras constantly switch but Seth clearly landed the opposite leg - the one closest to the ringsteps to the one he grabs:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/pro-wrestling/ring-posts-blog/bal-did-raw-end-with-an-injury-to-seth-rollins-20140715,0,2143883.story

 

It was the spot before the one in the GIF where the "injury" seemed to occur, as Rollins came off the top rope and Reigns sidestepped it. Rollins landed on his feet, which is a typical spot for him, but he landed somewhat awkwardly. He was visibly hobbling on his left (keeping weight off his right) for a second, right before Reigns sent him over the top with the clothesline in the GIF.

 

The real reason that I thought he was legitimately hurt, though, is that Charles Robinson gave the "X" sign for an injury shortly after the landing outside.

 

If it's a work, then yeah, I fell for it (and so did the Baltimore Sun, Bleacher Report, etc.) and I have no problem admitting that. But that also means that either Robinson got worked too or that it was a pre-meditated work...and I feel like the latter potentially has more problematic implications for WWE.

They have done the fake "X" sign for angles before. Both on TV (WrestleMania 22 is a famous example in the MITB match), and even at house shows (one I attended had the referee doing one where a heel I can't remember faked an injury to jump the face).

I thought they had switched wholesale from doing the "X" to something else unless the injury *was* worked. But then I thought I read someone reporting that they flashed the X when Bad News Barrett injured his shoulder at Smackdown. So maybe it's like a baseball coach's signal that gets changed and recycled every few weeks/months.

They have done the fake "X" sign for angles before. Both on TV (WrestleMania 22 is a famous example in the MITB match), and even at house shows (one I attended had the referee doing one where a heel I can't remember faked an injury to jump the face).

 

I didn't realize that about MITB but, having watched it this morning, I can say that I'm not especially fond of it there either for whatever it's worth. Especially since it was 50-year-old Flair, who looked like he was one bad bump from a trip to the nursing home or worse.

 

They're certainly allowed to change their signals, so to speak, but I tend to agree with sek that this starts to cross into "everything is fake but this TOTALLY-FOR-REAL SHOOT you're watching" territory. Let Rollins do his job and sell - there's no need to break the fourth wall to deliver the storyline that they wanted.

That trailer for Sting in the video game was awesome.

They have done the fake "X" sign for angles before. Both on TV (WrestleMania 22 is a famous example in the MITB match)

 

Man, that was ultra over the top. In full view of the camera, the referees both looked at each, turned to face the entranceway, and simultaneously and with emphasis raised their hands in the "X" sign together.

Daniel Bryan will not be featured on the WM special on NBC. They will show the Rock/Hogan/Austin segment, Taker/Brock and Cena/Wyatt. Wonder if that was NBC's call or WWE's

jesus christ that is dumb. That show was nothing without Bryan.

 

They have done the fake "X" sign for angles before. Both on TV (WrestleMania 22 is a famous example in the MITB match), and even at house shows (one I attended had the referee doing one where a heel I can't remember faked an injury to jump the face).

 

I didn't realize that about MITB but, having watched it this morning, I can say that I'm not especially fond of it there either for whatever it's worth. Especially since it was 50-year-old Flair, who looked like he was one bad bump from a trip to the nursing home or worse.

 

They're certainly allowed to change their signals, so to speak, but I tend to agree with sek that this starts to cross into "everything is fake but this TOTALLY-FOR-REAL SHOOT you're watching" territory. Let Rollins do his job and sell - there's no need to break the fourth wall to deliver the storyline that they wanted.

 

How did they break the fourth wall? Are stretcher jobs breaking it?

How did they break the fourth wall? Are stretcher jobs breaking it?

No, because stretcher jobs are a well-established trope in the business and one that is very explicitly and deliberately shown to the audience.

 

I get what you're aiming for -- we're talking about an "injury" in either case -- but the "X" signal has been established as the exact opposite; when it's used, it's meant to indicate a real, non-kayfabe injury has happened, and it's usually not meant to be outwardly advertised to the crowd, so to speak.

The real X is above the head. The fake X is closer to torso level. It MIGHT be the other way around, but that's how I remember Jimmy Korderas explaining it.

- Flair in MITB at WM22 (Fake): Way above the head

- Trish Stratus at Backlash '06 (Real): In front of face

- Seth Rollins on Raw (Fake?): Just above the chest

 

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