November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571823 Doc and Gordy have three or four great matches as a team, and about 20 mind numbing ones. I asked earlier if the people who disagree with me have seen anything outside the Steiners match and some of the high end All Japan, but haven't heard a response yet.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571824 I haven't seen any Doc/Gordy outside of Japan but I must say I did groan a bit whenever they turned up in my All Japan viewing. They never seemed to be as commanding in the ring as I thought they would and they've always been the least interesting team in the match. I was expecting something a bit more, um, . . . violent?
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571825 Doc and Gordy have three or four great matches as a team, and about 20 mind numbing ones. I asked earlier if the people who disagree with me have seen anything outside the Steiners match and some of the high end All Japan, but haven't heard a response yet. Forgot about that, and yes, I went back to revisit other matches and you're right they are quite tiresome on the whole.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571850 Doc and Gordy have three or four great matches as a team, and about 20 mind numbing ones. I asked earlier if the people who disagree with me have seen anything outside the Steiners match and some of the high end All Japan, but haven't heard a response yet. I always thought there was something wrong with me because I couldn't stand them as a tag team.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571872 Doc and Gordy have three or four great matches as a team, and about 20 mind numbing ones. I asked earlier if the people who disagree with me have seen anything outside the Steiners match and some of the high end All Japan, but haven't heard a response yet. I like them more than you but I will fully admit they are not above having a ton of table setting matwork that doesn't lead to a ton of interesting stuff. I do think they can remain fairly interesting in the final stretch being fed into the moves of their opponents or when they start throwing bombs at each other. Terry Gordy himself is someone that I think would be up there in boring workers for me. No doubt he has had a ton of great matches but even in the Freebirds six mans, he is usually the least interesting person on his team for me.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571883 Kane's problem is that he works to the level of his gimmick and his opponents. Book him as a supernatural zombie monster who faces giants and monsters and he sucks. Shed the invulnerable monster shtick and put him in the ring with CM Punk and Daniel Bryan in a 3-way feud and he's a completely different wrestler who cuts a fast pace and comes as close to working at the level of his opponents as he can for a giant in his mid-40s. Summer 2012 to Summer 2013 was easily the best in-ring year of his career and probably the most entertaining he's ever been as a character. He deserves props for how good he was until Team Hell No broke up.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571886 I got such flack that month for saying I wanted to see what they'd do in a three way with Kane in it.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571899 Big John Studd came to my mind first. Terry Taylor too, honestly. The non-Saturn parts of Raven's Flock (Sickboy, Reese, Lodi, Van Hammer, Scotty Riggs). The majority of the crappy stable guys from old WWF in the late 90's -- DOA, Los Boricuas, Mean Street Posse. Dan Maff too.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571904 Surely the nest step for Daniel Bryan is a feud with Kane? It is a natural continuation to his feud with the authority, and it makes sense given they used to be a team. Danielson could certainly get some good matches out of him.
November 10, 201311 yr comment_5571905 I liked Los Boricuas, and really, they were all solid workers at worst (at least Savio, Perez & Castillo). Really missed the opportunity to do something with them. They needed a hot latino valet and more elaborate production. And a push of course. D.O.A on the other hand sucked dick. When Brian Lee is the workhorse of the bunch by far, you're in deep trouble.
November 11, 201311 yr comment_5571906 No one mentionned Dean Malenko yet ? Technically proficient, but man was he a boring worker most of the time. Those "***** classics" with Eddie Guerrero litteraly put me to sleep.
November 11, 201311 yr comment_5571907 I find it somewhat comforting that Randy Orton has been mentionned a whole lot in this thread. As it's been said, this guy embodies everything I hate about what has become the in-house WWE style. Totally manufactured from A to Z, absolutely soulless, nothing remotely believable (his "Viper" act and maneurisms are the most robotic fake-ass shit I've ever seen). This WWE-bred style is the Autotune of pro-wrestling.Truth
November 11, 201311 yr comment_5571926 No one mentionned Dean Malenko yet ? Technically proficient, but man was he a boring worker most of the time. Those "***** classics" with Eddie Guerrero litteraly put me to sleep. Boring Dean is like like Fight Club and that dish the wife makes that gets you sick. First rule is SAY NOTHING.
November 11, 201311 yr comment_5572084 I started rewatching NWA/WCW with them taking over the TBS slot on Saturday Nights in 1985. I immediately remembered why I don't care for Jimmy Valiant.
November 12, 201311 yr comment_5572085 I started rewatching NWA/WCW with them taking over the TBS slot on Saturday Nights in 1985. I immediately remembered why I don't care for Jimmy Valiant. He reminds you of Johnny Sorrow?
November 12, 201311 yr comment_5572162 I started rewatching NWA/WCW with them taking over the TBS slot on Saturday Nights in 1985. I immediately remembered why I don't care for Jimmy Valiant. He reminds you of Johnny Sorrow? Both handsome.
November 12, 201311 yr comment_5572181 I started rewatching NWA/WCW with them taking over the TBS slot on Saturday Nights in 1985. I immediately remembered why I don't care for Jimmy Valiant. He reminds you of Johnny Sorrow? Both make one think of glass tabletops and the Rock 'n' Roll Express losing their lunch. Altered for clarity.
November 12, 201311 yr comment_5572187 Only Morton sold the glass bottom boat if I remember correctly.
November 18, 201311 yr comment_5573107 Dino Bravo all the way. Add Kane in there too along with pre-face turn Brutus Beefcake and after IC Title run Greg Valentine. Definitely Warlord too for the ennnnnnddddlesssss tests of strength and bear hugs.
November 18, 201311 yr comment_5573113 I saw someone mention Virgil. He would definitely be on my list. Jimmy Valiant would probably top my list. His interviews were fine, his wrestling was not only boring it also sucked.
November 18, 201311 yr comment_5573127 Virgil got a hell of a lot better by late 92/early 93. He had some squash matches in 92 where he just killed the poor guy. He was also a late era WCW SN Superworker.
November 18, 201311 yr comment_5573152 He was also a late era WCW SN Superworker. He was fucking awful in WCW, on every level. Probably the worst all-around worker there with Stevie Ray and Brian Adams.
November 18, 201311 yr comment_5573153 I will never forget that I saw Stevie Ray wrestle Vincent for control of the nWo Black & White. Ever.
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