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Chad and Parv welcome Brad from Place to Be Nation to review Starrcade 90: Collision Course.

 

- [16:12] Wrestling Observer and Torch round up including: Pat O'Connor's wife vs. Sam Muchnick, various comings and goings including the loss of the Nasty Boys, and *thank God* good riddance to Ole Anderson as booker.

 

- [45:41] Starrcade 90 review including: Jim Cornette's Christmas poem about Evil Jim Herd, WTBBP "welcomes" back Jack Victory, a wide spectrum of opinion on Steiners vs. Saito and Muta, and *thank God* good riddance to the Black Scorpion.

 

- [02:59:38] End of show awards and question for the listeners: who could have realistically represented Canada in the tag tournament better than Troy Montour and Danny "Bull" Johnson?

 

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Fun note: the guy on the far right of this picture (pink shirt) saw when we posted this on Graham's facebook page and noted that he was in the picture! Crazy! I wonder if it was his Print Shop program?

Scott Criscuolo will NOT be pleased!

 

Leona Helmsley is where Triple H's, and therefore Stephanie McMahon's stage married name, last name comes from.

A trip down memory lane for Parv: The Pat O'Connor Memorial International Cup Tag Team Tournament

 

I stand by my picks for Canada.

Vetoed Kelly, since WCW couldn't get Piper (I assume Abby would be available).

 

What we really want from you are jobber bios for those Candians though. Who the hell is Danny "Bull" Johnson?

My favourite podcast. Always a great show.

 

Thanks Parv, Chad & Brad.

Battleship Johnson aka Bullwhip Johnson aka Danny "Bull" Johnson apparently wrestled until 1998 in different Canadian provinces. I'll let Kelly share his work.

 

Montour on the other hand? This is the only documented match for Troy.

 

Battleship Johnson is an awesome name.

Chris Benoit & Owen Hart would have been the best possible Canadian tag team at that time from who was available but I would have loved for Leo Burke to somehow have been included.

I really enjoyed Brad on this one, he brought his A game for sure and cracked Parv up a few times.

 

Too bad that Grinch Campbell didn't like Cornette's poem.

 

Great job making a crappy show enjoyable!

I just finished watching the show and I will give the podcast a listen later (Going to try to do this through out 2014), but here are my thoughts.

 

I really loved the feel of this show. You had the national anthem, a bunch of countries represented in a tournament, sports facts and a cool looking ring. Loved the Starrcade written on the ring posts.

 

The matches were all fun, although sometimes short, they was at least fun things in each contest. Crazy spots like Rocco Rock doing a dive to the floor and being caught in a power bomb.

 

The three matches I would rate were Hansen-Luger (*** 3/4), Doom vs. Horsemen (****) and the tag tournament finals (*** 1/2).

 

I would have the Doom match higher if not for the finish, but what can you do.

 

Like I said, it all had this cool sports feel through out, until the main event. A complete change of pace and really felt out of place on this show. The match was alright, but the angle was too over powering in it.

 

Looking forward to the podcast later today.

Listening to the show and I got to the question of the show. I am embarrassed by the guys my country choose to represent us.

 

Here is a list of potential Canadians: Dan Kroffatt (Phil LaFon), Chris Benoit, Owen Hart, Keith Hart, Bruce Hart, Ben Bassarab, Leo Burke, Carl Ouellet, Jacques Rougeau, Tiger Jeet Singh, Vampiro, and Biff Wellington.

 

Any two of those guys would had made a better team easily.

I believe the first Mountie vignettes had aired by the time Starrcade 90 was broadcast, so that would leave Jacques out actually.

I believe the first Mountie vignettes had aired by the time Starrcade 90 was broadcast, so that would leave Jacques out actually.

Oh, still a hell of a lot of better options than what they chose. Hell, there was probably 50 guys in Canada that we haven't heard of that were better than Mantuar and Johnson.

I'm about an hr and 15 in and I'm really liking Brad's dry sense of humor .

I thought Brad really brought it on this, I agree Pete. Pleasure to talk to.

Thanks Parv, Justin, Pete and Cheapshot. Appreciate it and glad you enjoyed our work. Tons of fun.

 

As the boys wrap 1990, got a nice update from our friend TWF Dave for PTBN:

 

That's fantastic.

I decided to watch the Steiners vs . Saito/ Muta match since everybody seems to have different opinions on it and such . I'd give it 2 3/4*. I liked the early shine by the Steiners . Scott and Muta on the mat was fun for the short time we got it . When Rick and Saito got it on I loved how it looked like Rick was going for a Steinerline only to cross up Saito and nail him with a drop kick. Heck I was expecting Steinerline. Eventually, Rick is put FIP and he isn't really compelling in that role. Eventually he gets the hot tag . Scotty in and kicks ass for a minute than goes FIP. We get a cluster fuck at the finish and Rick nails a sunset flip off the top rope over Scotty for the 3. The finish was sudden, but made sense since the teams were being positioned as different sides of the same coin. So a trick play was what decided the match .It was a solid match that left much to be desired.

I decided to watch the Steiners vs . Saito/ Muta match since everybody seems to have different opinions on it and such . I'd give it 2 3/4*. I liked the early shine by the Steiners . Scott and Muta on the mat was fun for the short time we got it . When Rick and Saito got it on I loved how it looked like Rick was going for a Steinerline only to cross up Saito and nail him with a drop kick. Heck I was expecting Steinerline. Eventually, Rick is put FIP and he isn't really compelling in that role. Eventually he gets the hot tag . Scotty in and kicks ass for a minute than goes FIP. We get a cluster fuck at the finish and Rick nails a sunset flip off the top rope over Scotty for the 3. The finish was sudden, but made sense since the teams were being positioned as different sides of the same coin. So a trick play was what decided the match .It was a solid match that left much to be desired.

 

Glad you have the correct opinion on this match Pete.

I decided to watch the Steiners vs . Saito/ Muta match since everybody seems to have different opinions on it and such . I'd give it 2 3/4*. I liked the early shine by the Steiners . Scott and Muta on the mat was fun for the short time we got it . When Rick and Saito got it on I loved how it looked like Rick was going for a Steinerline only to cross up Saito and nail him with a drop kick. Heck I was expecting Steinerline. Eventually, Rick is put FIP and he isn't really compelling in that role. Eventually he gets the hot tag . Scotty in and kicks ass for a minute than goes FIP. We get a cluster fuck at the finish and Rick nails a sunset flip off the top rope over Scotty for the 3. The finish was sudden, but made sense since the teams were being positioned as different sides of the same coin. So a trick play was what decided the match .It was a solid match that left much to be desired.

As the guy who went **1/2 (Chad was ***), I'm onboard with this compromise.

You guys are all nuts. That match is awesome!

Those suplexes are your downfall Parv. Lol

Another fun ep but unfortunately i listened to it at the gym so none of my stream of consciousness ranting

Bummer, always enjoy your thoughts. I attribute me being caught up on the PTB catalog as the reason I quit going to the gym as I had nothing to listen to anymore.