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comment_5850550

Isn't this the first time the Vader-Simmons title change has been released?

Oh wow! That's on there? Holy grail material, for me at least. I've always wanted to see it.

 

Am I expecting a classic match? No. But I've had 20 years to build it up in my mind and imagine how it went.

 

Some really iconic stuff there - Jake the Snake debuting and ripping the crucifix off Sting, the lottery to give Simmons the title shot, and of course Simmons' shocking victory to become the first black World Heavyweight Champion.

 

I'm not expecting the Jake or lottery footage though.

comment_5850570

I get that feeling now that the Race/David match is the one from St Louis in 79, hopefully its not but they have mislabeled some dates in the past.

 

The 77 match took place in Fort Worth and you would think all that footage was taped over or lost. Hope I'm wrong, hope its a new match but my expectations have lowered.

comment_5850597

Damn it on the Vader-Simmons match being the one where Vader regaining the title. Who cares? At the time, that felt deflating - like they were giving up on Simmons (which they were, because he instantly crashed back down the card right after, as if the title reign never happened).

 

I just realized that these don't drop until Thursday, which explains why I went looking for them last night and couldn't find anything.

comment_5850604

Damn it on the Vader-Simmons match being the one where Vader regaining the title. Who cares? At the time, that felt deflating - like they were giving up on Simmons (which they were, because he instantly crashed back down the card right after, as if the title reign never happened).

 

From what I recall from Bill Watts talking about the Simmons deal said that Simmons had flunked some drug tests, take that as what you will. Simmons also had made the comment once that Watts was a racist just without a hood. So who knows?

comment_5850616

More added -

 

A Starla in the Making
In the early days of her career, Molly Holly (as Starla Sexton) faces Malia Hosaka. – (WCW WorldWide - 12/21/98)
Prototypical Arrival
John Cena (aka The Prototype) makes his OVW Debut. – (OVW TV - 5/26/01)
Before Phenomenal
Before his phenomenal rise to the top of WWE, AJ Styles takes on The Hurricane back in 2002. – (WWE Jakked - 1/26/02)
Glorious Beginnings
Albert battles the up-and-comer Bobby Rood(e). – (WWE Velocity - 10/19/02)
Seeds of Lunacy

 

A young Dean Ambrose takes it to the veteran William Regal. – (FCW TV - 7/1/12)
comment_5850646

From what I recall from Bill Watts talking about the Simmons deal said that Simmons had flunked some drug tests, take that as what you will. Simmons also had made the comment once that Watts was a racist just without a hood. So who knows?

Very odd since Watts is the one responsible for pushing Simmons, pushed JYD in the past, and had the "Big Cat" Ernie Ladd in a high ranking office position in the UWF (co-booker maybe?).

 

Then again, there's that weird Torch interview where a chaw-sucking Watts went on about how he shouldn't have to serve n-words in his hypothetical restaurant if he didn't want to.

 

When Turner exec and baseball legend Hank Aaron saw that, it was curtains for Watts. (The Torch interview supposedly sent to Aaron by Mark Madden, but I'm not sure I believe that carny.)

comment_5850719

I dont think they ever aired it on Saturday Night but they 100% aired it on a Main Event shortly after it happened it either full or close to full with I think the entrances skipped over. I think they aired it on Power Hour too but Power Hour was almost exclusively repeats of Main Event/Worldwide matches by that point in 92.

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