"Libertarianism" in a modern sense is largely about re-branding. One of the reasons I tend to view Rockwell as a goof is that he's spent so much of his life regularly re-branding himself because he didn't like how the prior re-branding came to be seen.

 

The Ledbetter piece by Kane is one I have memory reading at the time when someone pointed me to what a crackpot Kane was. I'm sure that Kane thinks he's being deeply philosophical in his writing because he's citing stuff he pulled from someone else who had previously written on the topic. But... eh. :/

 

 

 

Libertarians: Val Venis, Glen Jacobs, probably numerous others.

 

Kane is more a Tea Party "libertarian" rather than a deeply philosophical libertarian. Not dissimilar to where a lot of people who were typically GOP ran to during/after the Bush years and "Republican" made some of them a bit uneasy.

 

This isn't really true. Jacobs is a believer in Austrian economics, very familiar with Mises, Rothbard, et. It is true that he is somewhat wedded to the Ron/Rand Paul political strategy, but I know for a fact he is more deeply philosophical than a lot of people who are actually in the LP

 

 

Oh, I know his stuff about Austrian economics. But having read his framing of it relative to Keynes, it tends to come across much more as Tea Party / Paulian view of Austrian econ than truly deep philosophical and thinking.

 

 

The argument relative to Keynes literally goes back to Hayek v. Keynes. Before the Tea Party even existed, there were libertarian writers pointing to Keynes as the evil other acting as a trojan horse toward state socialism decades ago. I don't really know any Tea Partiers I would regard as seriously engaged with Austrian economics, unless you want to argue that a knowledge of what the Road to Serfdom contains qualifies, and I am someone who has covered them and dealt with them on a daily basis far more often than the average person. Matt Kibbe who was with FreedomWorks and others their certainly have interest in Mises, but they are the exception so far as I can tell, and Jacobs is much more of an orthodox Austrian based on his writings, affiliations, and personal conversations he's had with people I know.

 

The idea that Rockwell is a Tea Party type is completely bizarre. I literally know of no one familiar with Lew as a fan, critic, bitter enemy, et. who sees him as Jim Demitt or Mike Lee type. I don't really think PWO is the place to discuss paleolibertarianism as a political strategy and/or the poor branding decisions of Rockwell (or Rothbard) over the years, but I don't think there is a great deal of evidence to support the argument that the writings, academic career, public profile, et. of Rockwell is that of a social conservative who wishes to use the power of the state to impose his will on others.

Fellas, we're supposed to be talking about wrestler's political affiliations, real or imagined. Not this other stuff.

 

I blame Obama for this thread going off track.

I think the important question here is - were the Moondogs anarcho-primtivists?

The social views of Rockwell and his ilk are pretty clearly reactionary. They may oppose using the power of the federal government to impose such views, but they also oppose federal intervention to prevent individual states from imposing those views. In their view, if a state wants to ban abortion or impose segregation, let them have at it.

 

Back on topic, I'm pretty sure Shawn Michaels is a Republican. He also bears an uncanny resemblance to Nazi foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop.

 

 

I think the important question here is - were the Moondogs anarcho-primtivists?

 

I believe Max Moon was an optimus-primivist.

 

The idea that Rockwell is a Tea Party type is completely bizarre.

 

 

I didn't say he was a Tea Party guy.

 

I said he was a goof who keeps rebranding himself over the decades when he finds his prior branding uncomfortable.

 

*That* regular rebranding of himself is not dissimilar to how a large chunk of Tea Party folks are little more than rebranded from parties (and mostly from one specific party) because they don't care for their prior branding.

 

John

Pro Wrestling Only: come for the discussion of heterodox wrestling views, stay for the discussion of heterodox political views.

Wasn't Pillman a hard-core Republican?

Work to push the loose cannon gimmick, IIRC.

 

Foley is an interesting one because as left leaning guys like Punk, Bryan, and company are, there's no one else I could see being as deep into modern feminist politics as he is.

Inoki is a neocon (no shit, is anyone surprised) and Hase is a Lib-Dem. For those in the UK, there’s a distinction between our Lib-Dems and the Japanese ones who are more towards centre-right and not centre-left.

 

Kandori is also a Lib Dem as a member of the Diet. I suspect that whatever party of which Sasuke would be a member, it is entirely on his own crazy, crazy terms.

how has nobody mentioned ludvig borga getting elected with the true finns

 

also i recently learned lash leroux is a conservative political cartoonist now...

Some of you may be surprised to know that Kevin Nash is an Obama supporter.

 

And I think he voted for Trump.

 

Some of you may be surprised to know that Kevin Nash is an Obama supporter.

 

And I think he voted for Trump.

 

Nash voted for Gary Johnson.

Back on topic, I'm pretty sure Shawn Michaels is a Republican. He also bears an uncanny resemblance to Nazi foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop.

 

 

 

I had not seen this before. Chuckling irrepresibly !!

Katarina Waters, based on her Facebook page, is a HUGE Bernie Sanders supporter. A democratic socialist.

Maria Kanellis felt the Bern too.

Bob Backlund ran for Congress as a Republican (makes me wonder how much of the Mr. Backlund character was based off of Backlund's real life views).

Wrestlers that ran for various partisan offices-

 

Eddie Gilbert - Republican for County Clerk (1994, lost)

 

Rick Steiner - Republican for Cherokee County School Board (last reelected 2014)

 

Ray Traylor - Republican for Paulding County Commission Chairman (2004, lost)

 

Rhino - Republican for Michigan State House (2016, lost)

 

Nikolai Volkoff - Republican for Maryland State House of Delegates (2006, lost)

 

Stan "Krusher" Kowalski (The Big K) - Democratic-Farmer-Labor for Minnesota State House (1986/2000, lost in primary)

 

Paul Ellering - Independence Party candidate for Minnesota State House (2002, lost)

 

Backlund was mentioned already. Lawler never ran with a party. Who cares about Brian Blair.

 

Non-USA category: Inoki, Onita, Hase, Sasuke, Butcher Vachon, all ran for office

 

A long while ago I found Randy Savage was a member of the Independent Party of Florida (instead of being a No Party Affiliation voter).

Baby Doll and her new biker boyfriend are diehard Trump supporters, been posting a lot of "deal with it" type memes on Facebook this week.

Baby Doll and her new biker boyfriend are diehard Trump supporters, been posting a lot of "deal with it" type memes on Facebook this week.

Cornette must be happy he made sure she couldn't procreate.

John Cena tweeted support for the Women's March on Washington.

 

https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/822917247886913536

John Cena tweeted support for the Women's March on Washington.

 

https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/822917247886913536

 

Wow. Hey, good that he does ! But still. Wow. Vince must be so happy...

Not to say that he doesn't legitimately support the cause, but above all else John Cena is a #brand robot and his significant other is a main cast member on a E! show with a high female audience.

He was also on a SNL sketch spoofing Trump.

based on today, you really have to wonder what people like Sami Zayn and Mustafa Ali thinks about that the McMahon relationship