I'd be willing to go for that, just want to keep the retirement as retirement and career ending injury etc. (Willing to waive any other sort of injury, just thinking of things like Magnum TA). No issues with early parole for Patera and Saito or what have you.

I get deaths although there's a case to be made for if Brody isn't in Puerto Rico in '88 he doesn't get murdered but I still agree none the less. However retirements and things that depended on being in specific places at specific times seems like more of a stretch...but fair enough.

 

So that being said...I guess I shot myself in the foot agreeing to trade for Shultz four monthes ago. So does this mean I have to count off "25 matches" then retire him?

Keep him in, I am fine with that.

I see Schultz working (quite sparingly) to 1989. I say he is yours to use until that time as you see fit.

 

I agree with career enders like Magnum.

 

Hiatus and prison and movies and such are thrown out and can be utilized by the owner of the talent.

 

Death is death.

 

Retirement should be utilized as in the "year" they retire... so for instance Schultz wrestled one match in 1989 according to cage match... imo he is useable until that time.

Seems fair

All good for me.

Seems like a very fair way of going about it.

So I guess Ken Patera gets early parole on January 1st thanks to overcrowding... that changes some things.

 

1st pick in the 2nd round is on the block right now given these changes... let me know if you're interested... Rain I sent you a PM.

I am in favor of all real life situations being used in the game. Death, retirements, prison etc... should be followed. We say if Brody was not in WWC he would not have died. Well if Flair was not in NC, he could have been in a car accident in Georgia.

I also think this was already decided with Patera ans Saito which caused the UWF to release Patera.

I understand that point of view but we have to try and encourage the organic nature of the game and rules as we move forward. We have to increase creativity and not limit it. With a majority of people agreeing to changes it encourages that growth.

I also think this was already decided with Patera ans Saito which caused the UWF to release Patera.

Kevin does have a fair point, given that release was done at the time when the current rules were in place. Is the a compromise, at least on this issue? When was Patera released from jail IRL?

His first match back is in April of 87.

 

I have no problem holding him until then or if Kevin wasn't to feel better throw me a list of guys you'd move for him... doesn't have to be major and he can have him for a low price and be available right now.

 

Whatever he sees fit.

If we reach agreement on the specific case of Patera, can we then agree to the rest of the rule change going forward, then?

I think this is on Kevin right now... Patera being the outlier while the rest can be good to go.

 

If he wants him available now, just throw me a list of names, again, doesn't have to be anything big and I will pick one and he can go to UWF and be active.

 

If he doesn't want him to be active, he is going to sit on the WWF roster until he is.

 

Everyone else should be fine to go with the rule change.

I just stumbled upon this but I'm absolutely fine with whatever happens. Deaths should be the only finality here. Incidents like prison & such can be thrown out of the window if necessary.

WWF drops out of the draft... time to start planning for next years now... Sid... Taker... or Eddie... hmmm.

 

 

Regardless, Kevin let me know about Patera.

 

I will keep up with the draft as it will be continuous until everyone drops.

I have seemed to misplace the Nasty Boys... Brian Knobbs and Jerry Saggs. I know a year ago they were drafted to the Memphis roster but never used... then not sure where they went after that or where they are at now.

I have seemed to misplace the Nasty Boys... Brian Knobbs and Jerry Saggs. I know a year ago they were drafted to the Memphis roster but never used... then not sure where they went after that or where they are at now.

 

They should be on the MACW roster... that was the last trade and movement I saw of them. If this isn't correct let me know.

 

I have seemed to misplace the Nasty Boys... Brian Knobbs and Jerry Saggs. I know a year ago they were drafted to the Memphis roster but never used... then not sure where they went after that or where they are at now.

 

They should be on the MACW roster... that was the last trade and movement I saw of them. If this isn't correct let me know.

 

 

 

It isn't correct... they are on the SMW roster that is currently up for draft... damnit Low Blow you can't keep anything straight.

 

Saggs and Knobbs are now eligible in the draft sorry for the confusion.

Sorry I was reffing some basketball games and had no access to a computer. I am fine with Patera being good to go.

Based on this discussion, is Mr. Saito now available to use right now?

Yup

But should he be in the draft or just a free agent?