Kris and David are joined by Charles (Pro Wrestling Only) and Sean Wheelock (Let’s Get It On/Bellator) to discuss the week that was September 8-14, 1994. Listen to us talk about Jim Cornette breaking car windows, Crush & Yokozuna breaking caskets, Keith Hackney breaking his hands, & the Gracie myth breaking apart!!!!

http://placetobenation.com/between-the-sheets-8-september-8-14-1994/

Hey, What's with this MMA content? What's next, a 1999 one talking about the debut of Rollerjam?

 

But seriously, I'm looking forward to this.

This is from when MMA was actually good

Aka when it was basically Street Fighter II.

Can we get timestamps, please?

Between the Sheets #8: September 8-14, 1994 (00:00:00 - 03:41:02)

You're killing me, Chad.

Looks like around 2:15:00 is the end of the break.

I had started doing them then forgot as the show went on until halfway through

According to prowrestlinghistory.com/smw, the DQ incident was 3/17/94

 

The Fanweek heel BBQ video and the Q&A are very good reference points to get Cornette's views at the time about the KC O'Connor car incident and his fresh issues with the Torch. The "race riot" thing with the Torch really started it. Then during Fanweek, there was something in the Torch reviewing Terry Gordy's performance at Night of Legends saying he was "in the Twilight Zone" or something which got Cornette hot. I know the rant on that in particular was at the BBQ. There was also a Mitchell column around that time which was total fantasy booking but he used Cornette's shoot girlfriend at the time "Big Red" as a character in the story & Cornette thought that was way over the line & prompted the phone calls. The heat continued even until the next year when Cornette tried to go into the stands to confront Mitchell at the May 1995 Charlotte show. Brian Hildebrand had to send Landel out of the locker room to intercept Cornette & lie to him saying "the guy we thought was him isn't him so don't go up there".

Is Rossy Ogawa still involved in Joshi? I know he was involved when Arsion became A-to-Z in 2004/5. I thought I heard that he's still involved with either Ito or GAMI's group?

Who was tearing something up during the show? I want to blame Loss but wasn't sure.

 

Good show as always. This is one of my favorite listens.

Yep, another really good show. I enjoy the foray into MMA, especially since the early UFC shows were a hot ticket at the time and so, so different from what it all evolved into. I'm not sure that modern MMA really fits in with a Rasslin' podcast, but in 1994, it the connection was palpable.

Some notes:

 

If any of you here is a Terry Funk fan that hasn't seen the Sabu vs. Al Snow (vs. Funk) match that Dan Farren promoted, go watch it. Like Bix said, it's the Funkest thing ever. There are two camcoder versions of it: the first one I ever got was from Kurt Brown/Vandal Drummond and you can see Bob Barnett in the background taping his own version. It was only years later that I saw Bob's version. You guys should have gotten Dan or Kurt to do a quick run in and talk about it because this was tremendous.

 

On the Paco Alonso talk: Paco is a very interesting guy and as he's pretty reclusive I don't think I have figured him out. You hear all these rumours about him not caring, the Lutteroths stepping in from time to time when he messes things up too badly, etc., but whenever he talks he always comes off as a very smart guy. It's not like Russo or Dixie or other people that after 5 minutes you know they are just babbling bullshit. Most of his inner circle (Panico, Feliciano, Colombo, etc.) are smart and knowledgeable as well... then you see the way they run their business and it makes no sense at all.

 

Bret Hart was perhaps bigger than Undertaker in Germany, though both were gigantic. I remember being 12 or 13, going to the tourist newsstands in Barcelona and making my mom buy the German teen magazine BRAVO because I was totally embarrassed to be seen buying such a girly girl magazine. The German WWF boom in the mid 90s is often talked about but people rarely ever mention how big wrestling was with German and Austrian women.

Even though I'm a pretty big MMA fan, I wasn't looking forward to the MMA talk from this podcast, but I was surprised how much I liked it. Wade thinking that early UFC's were a work blew my mind.

The early UFC's were so fun and will be great to talk about

Kris, you've been on fire lately with these Between the Sheets shows. I've been really enjoying them cause it's like history lessons for me especially since I watched stuff in the 90s but I was too young for the dirtsheets at the time.

 

I was rolling when you mentioned Harold Howard's manager having the Butch Lewis look cause I knew immediately what that was. I'm gonna check out Sean's book to compare to Snowden's Total MMA book and will no doubt check out the Terry Funk brawl with Sabu.

Is Rossy Ogawa still involved in Joshi? I know he was involved when Arsion became A-to-Z in 2004/5. I thought I heard that he's still involved with either Ito or GAMI's group?

 

He's been the Stardom president since it started in 2010, for the rough view. He's had stuff to do this year to say the least.

I thought the comments here about Jim Ross were interesting. I had no idea he was trying to get back into WCW in '94. And the idea that he became a WWF/E institution in spite of both his own AND Vince's wishes is hilarious.

 

When do you think he started accepting WWF as 'his' company, if he ever did?. I'd say it was when he took a more prominent role on Raw after Survivors '97.

Sean Wheelock was great. I'd heard him on one of Bix's podcasts previously and at that point had no idea he was so interested in wrestling, just associated him as being an MMA commentator. As a Brit I also found it amusing, in a childish way, that he didn't know what the word 'tackle' also refers to over here when he was doing the Superbowl radio commentary.

Did you say that the footage of Terry Funk vs Sabu in California is out there? I searched on Terry Funk 1994 and did find some Sabu stuff from Michigan but not this. Maybe i need to search Sabu vs Al Snow

Yes, the footage is out there but it may not be on youtube. My copies are both in VHS's that I got back in the day from Kurt Brown and Bob Barnett.

 

http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/15935-sabu-vs-al-snow-091194/

Watching UFC 3 in prep for the 2nd half of the show.

 

Any mention of Brian Kilmeade now being a horrible Fox News commentator? I never made the connection before actually seeing this old show.

Watching UFC 3 in prep for the 2nd half of the show.

 

Any mention of Brian Kilmeade now being a horrible Fox News commentator? I never made the connection before actually seeing this old show.

 

I think I mentioned in passing that he's the guy from Fox & Friends but that was about it.