Posted October 4, 20159 yr comment_5702065 If you are a voter and you want to make your ballot public please do so here. Here is my final ballot I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATESJohnny "Mr. Wrestling II" WalkerI FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATESJunkyard DogI FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATESAkira Taue I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATESPerro Aguayo Jr.Cien CarasBlue PantherHuracan RamirezEl Signo & El Texano & Negro NavarroVillano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATESAbstain I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATESCarlos Colon NON-WRESTLERSDave BrownGary HartJimmy HartGene OkerlundDon Owen
October 4, 20159 yr comment_5702121 I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES [Abstain] I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Junkyard Dog Ivan Koloff I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES [Abstain] I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES Brazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El Brazo Cien Caras Karloff Lagarde El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro Villano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES [Abstain] I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES Carlos Colon Mark Lewin NON-WRESTLERS Dave Brown Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Gene Okerluind Don Owen
October 4, 20159 yr comment_5702137 I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Ivan Koloff I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES Volk Han Mike & Ben Sharpe I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES [Abstain] I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES [Abstain] I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES [Abstain] I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES [Abstain] NON-WRESTLERS Blank Vote
October 4, 20159 yr comment_5702216 I'm abstaining from the historical performers era category. I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES: X Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Ivan Koloff Junkyard Dog I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES: X I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES: X Cien Caras Karloff Lagarde El Signo & El Texano & Negro NavarroVillano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES: X Big Daddy Jackie Pallo I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES: X Carlos Colon NON-WRESTLERS: X Dave Brown Gary Hart Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Gene Okerlund Candidate I think should be put on the ballot: Yoshiaki Fujiwara.
October 5, 20159 yr comment_5702353 I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Brock Lesnar Junkyard Dog Sgt. Slaughter Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Sting Ivan Koloff Edge I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES Carlos Colon Domenic DeNucci Mark Lewin NON-WRESTLERS Jimmy Hart Gorilla Monsoon Gene Okerluind Jerry Jarrett
October 5, 20159 yr comment_5702355 Modern Bryan Danielson Junkyard Dog CM Punk Randy Orton Brock Lesnar Japan Jun Akiyama CIMA Non-Wrestlers Jim Crockett Sr Jimmy Hart Howard Finkel Gene Okerlund
October 5, 20159 yr comment_5702400 I'm abstaining from the historical performers era category. I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES: X Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Ivan Koloff Junkyard Dog I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES: X I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES: X Cien Caras Karloff Lagarde El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro Villano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES: X Big Daddy Jackie Pallo I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES: X Carlos Colon NON-WRESTLERS: X Dave Brown Gary Hart Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Gene Okerlund Candidate I think should be put on the ballot: Yoshiaki Fujiwara. I think that the only reason Fujiwara isn't in the Hall of Fame at this point is that most people think that he was already inducted.
October 5, 20159 yr comment_5702403 X I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES X I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Junkyard Dog Edge Ivan Koloff X I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES Jun Akiyama Volk Han Shinsuke Nakamura Mike & Ben Sharpe Akira Taue I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES X I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES Carlos Colon XNON-WRESTLERS Jim Crockett Jr. Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Gene Okerluind Don Owen
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702447 I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES Enrique Torres I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Junkyard Dog Ivan Koloff I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES Akira Taue I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES Cien Caras Karloff Lagarde Blue Panther El Signo & El Texano & Negro Navarro Villano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES I abstain I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES Carlos Colon NON-WRESTLERS Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Gene Okerluind Don Owen Stanley Weston
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702468 I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES (abstain) I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Junkyard Dog Ivan Koloff C.M. Punk I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES Mike & Ben Sharpe Akira Taue I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES (abstain) I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES (abstain) I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES Carlos Colon NON-WRESTLERS Jim Crockett Sr. Jerry Jarrett Don Owen George Scott Stanley Weston
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702469 Abstained from Historical, Mexico, Europe U.S./Canada Daniel Bryan Danielson Japan Jun Akiyama Misc World category Carlos Colon Non Wrestler Jimmy Hart Jerry Jarrett Gene Okerlund Don Owen
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702474 My ballot... Dick Murdoch Buddy RoseEl Dandy Bill Dundee Lord Steven Regal
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702503 I already posted this in a different thread, but here it goes: I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATESBrazo de Oro & Brazo de Plata & El BrazoCien CarasKarloff LagardeBlue PantherHuracan RamirezEl Signo & El Texano & Negro NavarroVillano III I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATESCarlos Colon
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702507 Sorry if this isn't the right thread to ask this. Listening to the new (and awesome as usual) Exile on Badstreet, I'm really interested in learning more about old school lucha. Since there are voters here in the Mexico category on either side of the Huracan Ramirez candidacy I'm wondering if the the people who voted for and against him could talk a bit about him as a candidate. What was he missing for the non-voters? What put him over the top for the voters? So far everyone has voted for Karloff. What separates them as candidates? Thanks!
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702509 Maybe this should be on the HOF thread itself, but I will reply here and let the mods choose whether to move our posts or not. I voted for both but my guess is that the ones that voted for one but not the other did so because they found other candidates to be more important and/or needing the votes. Those on this thread who voted for only one of them have used their 10 votes. I consider both to be on the same level as far as candidacy goes. Legendary stars, both were main eventers and draws for decades but never THE GUY so they suffer from being somewhat overshadowed by contemporaries (Demon and Santo as tecnicos, Mendoza and Guajardo on the rudo side). Huracan is stronger on the historical significance/influence side and a bigger draw. Lagarde was the better worker and the ultimate professional. Both have been somewhat forgotten in time for different reasons. Lagarde retired earlier than Mendoza/Guajardo and doesn't have the promoter career or the legendary family that kept the names alive. Huracan had the big trademark scandal and lost a lot of goodwill with many people when he came clean on his alcoholism and claimed that most major stars of the time were drug addicts and/or alcoholics.
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702530 A Canadian voter who doesn't have an account here had shared his ballot with me. With his permission, here's how he voted: I FOLLOWED THE HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA CANDIDATES - YES I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES - YES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Edge Brock Lesnar Sgt. Slaughter Sting I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN JAPAN CANDIDATES - YES Jun Akiyama Yuji Nagata Shinsuke Nakamura I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES - YES Perro Aguayo Jr. Dr. Wagner Jr. I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES - NO I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN AUSTRALIA/PACIFIC ISLANDS/CARIBBEAN/AFRICA CANDIDATES - NO NON-WRESTLERS Bill Apter Howard Finkel Gene Okerlund
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702531 A different voter who had shared their ballot with me (since I actively collected them last year). I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan EdgeBrock Lesnar I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN MEXICO CANDIDATES Perro Aguayo Jr. L.A. Park I FOLLOWED WRESTLING IN EUROPE CANDIDATES Big DaddyRollerball Mark Rocco Johnny Saint NON-WRESTLERS Howard Finkel Gene Okerluind
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702534 Lagarde had a better title record history and more key matches at CMLL's big anniversary shows than Ramirez. He was a late cut of mine, but I'll probably vote for him next year.
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702540 A third ballot from another anonymous voter. I FOLLOWED THE MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA CANDIDATES Bryan Danielson/Daniel Bryan Edge Brock Lesnar NON-WRESTLERS Gene Okerlund Howard Finkel
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702546 I want to see Chris talk about Sting To be very honest, sometimes I go with pure calculations. Sometimes I go with gut. Everyone on the ballot has a case. It's always a question of whether it's the strongest case among the categories you're going to participate in. I haven't supported Sting before. I thought his relevance in WWE in 2015 was very interesting and honestly that did it for me. I've listened to Sting supporters. I've listened to Koloff supporters. I've listened to Slaughter supporters. Their arguments convinced me to give their candidate a vote. If they go in, great. If they don't? I won't be upset. Honestly, about the only candidate that I feel strongly about is JYD. Typically, with these things, before I can vote for , I usually have to concede that involves voting for and . So, if my analysis convinced me vote for Edge, then I feel that by the same criteria, wrestlers like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan had to get a vote. However, I'll admit that: 1.) This year, I went with my gut and didn't over-think it. 2.) I think I'm one-and-done with Sting unless he has another high-profile year in WWE.
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702573 It's very hard to see how Sting's WWE run this year significantly impacted business in a positive fashion. Outside of Sting working really hard to have a good match at Night of Champions with Seth Rollins, it was quite a lukewarm affair. Not a disaster, but not a home run either. To me it hammered the nails in the coffin of his candidacy (with the current deep ballot) rather helped it, because WWE booked him like someone they didn't have much faith in.
October 6, 20159 yr comment_5702574 Man, Edge really held that much water with voters? That's insane to me.
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