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comment_5716423

What a shame. Fantastic worker and great man. I was also shocked at the news - he'd had heart problems for almost a couple of decades but he was a health nut who (as far as I know) lived a fairly clean lifestyle.

 

One of the most graceful flyers from his time for sure. His reputation with co-workers was one like Ricky Steamboat or Ricky Morton: a guy that was easy to work with, would always have a good match, would never hurt you and would never hurt himself.

 

I wonder if we'd talking him up more as a super worker if he had stayed with CMLL and never gone to AAA (he had some great matches there with Parka and Jerry Estrada but never seemed to be a great fit). I have always felt his stock would go up if we had more of his 80s footage.

comment_5716432

Jose:

 

I always wondered what happened between Dec-02-1983 and Mar-20-1988 when he was without a belt. He was so consistently holding a title when he made the progression through Welterweight and Middleweight division (held a belt for 87% of the time between Apr-20-1978 and Dec-02-1983), then was a dynastic holder in the LHW division in 1988-94.

 

What was he up to in 1985-87 that kept him away from the big EMLL titles?

comment_5716473

Jose:

 

I always wondered what happened between Dec-02-1983 and Mar-20-1988 when he was without a belt. He was so consistently holding a title when he made the progression through Welterweight and Middleweight division (held a belt for 87% of the time between Apr-20-1978 and Dec-02-1983), then was a dynastic holder in the LHW division in 1988-94.

 

What was he up to in 1985-87 that kept him away from the big EMLL titles?

 

John, I have no good answer for that. I'd have guessed they were focusing on Atlantis instead, but Mexican promotions don't work like that. I'll ask Steve Sims.

comment_5716486

Lizmark spent a lot of time working trios matches with Atlantis and Rayo Jalisco Jr. in those years. After he dropped the NWA World Middleweight title to Satanico at the end of '83, I think he challenged for it again during Satanico's reign, but in the light heavyweight class, Ringo Mendoza and then Rayo Jalisco Jr were the tecnico NWA champs in that time period and nobody seemed to care about the National title. Lizmark was involved in the establishment of the WWA title in '86, but not the promoters choice for the initial champ, which was El Cobrade II.

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