Posted February 1, 20169 yr comment_5724878 He was always awful, wasn't he? Or am I missing something?
February 2, 20169 yr comment_5724987 He knew how to be cool and get an audience going. Hold them in the palm of his hand, there's a lot of talent there. Technically no not all that much but neither was that the point of him. I'm not of fan of him, George Steele, Hillbilly Him etc but you can't deny the man's charisma or talent as a perfomer.
February 2, 20169 yr Author comment_5724992 Guy was definitely over for the time period, but he is the worst guy outside of The Hillbillies I'm getting to watch in 86, and he is pushed relatively high up the card. That, and he wrestles like a heel.
February 2, 20169 yr comment_5725091 He was always awful, wasn't he? Or am I missing something? Valiants in (W)WWF were fun, mostly saw 1979 run when it was three of them and Jimmy was carrying an injury. I thought John was the charisma of the group and Jerry was the best worker. Jimmy just seemed like he was there to me. In Crockett, I am in the camp that hate the endless Paul Jones's Army vs. Jimmy Valiant feud, but I have seen at least one excellent match from Valiant where they work around his obvious limitations, it's Jack & Jerry Brisco vs. Jimmy Valiant & Bob Orton, Jr. (12/6/83) if you are interested. That's the best Valiant has ever looked to me, but he's in there with two all-time greats and a very solid hand in Jerry Brisco.
February 3, 20169 yr comment_5725218 In a business filled with ridiculous over-acting, he may be the worst over-actor of all time.
February 3, 20169 yr comment_5725229 Maybe ol' handsome Jimmy was better back in his younger days, during his prime? I dunno, I don't really know enough about 19th century wrestling to have an informed opinion about him.
February 4, 20169 yr comment_5725442 Can we rename this the "funny attempts to turn Johnny Sorry heel" thread
February 4, 20169 yr comment_5725454 Can we rename this the "funny attempts to turn Johnny Sorry heel" thread It was literally the only reason I posted (sorry Johnny).
February 5, 20169 yr comment_5725474 Why don't you all go find some 5'10'' guy in shorts and kick pads to fawn over?
February 5, 20169 yr comment_5725580 I'll say this much, whenever I'm watching wrestling & a casual or non fan stops by during a Valiant match, they fall in love.
February 5, 20169 yr comment_5725581 I'll say this much, whenever I'm watching wrestling & a casual or non fan stops by during a Valiant match, they fall in love.
February 6, 20169 yr comment_5725610 I hated him for the longest time. But for some reason when I started watching JCP again last year I absolutely couldn't get enough of him. I think he would lose his charm if he was a good wrestler honestly.
February 6, 20169 yr comment_5725626 Valiant's interviews are money. The beard-cutting issue that kicks off the Jones Army stuff is incredible. It strikes a raw nerve, and he invokes all the right emotions - even if he walks right up to (or right PAST) that line of over-the-top zaniness at times. The term, "promo" gets thrown around left and right like it's applicable to every interview or 20-minute monologue they tape these days. But if it ain't selling a show, pimping a ticket, or hyping an end date - then how's it a promo exactly? Valiant's interviews were very much promos. They promoted shit. They sold shows. They pimped tickets. They hyped dates. They made you want to mark your calendar and see what the fuck goes down when he gets his hands on Jones, the ragtag misfits of the Army, or whatever. Does he lose a bit when it comes to the bell-to-bell action? Sure. I'd buy that. But I'll be damned if he doesn't hold the God-given, natural charm and charisma to pull me back in and sell me on the SAME shitty fight scene all over again in time for the next Boogie Woogie match.
February 6, 20169 yr Author comment_5725639 Why don't you all go find some 5'10'' guy in shorts and kick pads to fawn over? Not what I care for at all. However, Valiant just makes me cringe. I still also want someone to perhaps excuse his heel move set - it feels odd to see him jabbing thumbs into throats and using back rakes.
February 6, 20169 yr comment_5725642 Yeah because the most over baby face in wrestling at the time didn't do any of that stuff.
February 6, 20169 yr comment_5725643 We've had that talk before. Babyfaces are dicks. Look at superheroes, Bugs Bunny and other heroes from movies... all dicks.
February 6, 20169 yr Author comment_5725646 Yeah because the most over baby face in wrestling at the time didn't do any of that stuff. Yeah, and it gets flagged up as something incongruous with the persona they were trying to sell him as having.
February 7, 20169 yr comment_5725714 I think it's probably a mistake to criticise Hogan or Valiant for that. Or Dusty. There were always two different types of babyface: 1. Technical babyfaces. Cleaner than clean. On one end of this spectrum you'd have someone like Verne or Dory Jr as a fact. On the other end you'd have your blowjobs like Steamboat, Martel, and all the tagteams. Jack Brisco was somewhere in betweeen. 2. Hero of the people. The Crusher, Dick the Bruiser, Dusty, Hogan, Jimmy Valiant, Duggan ... The distinction should be clear. Generally also, the first group were "scientitific" wrestlers and the second group were "brawlers".
February 7, 20169 yr comment_5725758 Yeah because the most over baby face in wrestling at the time didn't do any of that stuff. Yeah, and it gets flagged up as something incongruous with the persona they were trying to sell him as having. That shit only gets "flagged"" by weirdo zilches who don't understand pro wrestling.
February 7, 20169 yr comment_5725759 Can we rename this the "funny attempts to turn Johnny Sorry heel" thread That would insinuate anyone has actually been funny.
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