April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743042 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743043 I think Inoki is legit the most boring wrestler of all time, and I still voted him. Career too good, and too many great moments, to deny. In other concerns ...
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743045 I think someone said it on a podcast, but there is no one I can think of that I DON'T want to see face Necro Butcher. Mark Henry vs Necro Butcher - Yes Please Scott Steiner vs Necro Butcher - Oh my god... YES! Giant Baba vs Necro Butcher - The gods were cruel for denying us this joy Verne Gagne vs Necro Butcher - WHY NOT?! Necro Butcher vs MS-1 - That one isn't even funny it is just amazing sounding. HHH vs Necro Buthcer - I'd pay for that! So much fun. Lets just transport Necro to peak Memphis and Continental. Life isnt fair. Omg YES! Necro in BattlARTS, ECW, and Puerto Rico in '98-2000. Assuming that the footage would be available. That's an easy one, though. Necro as a lucha brawler speaks for itself, but I can never get past him in PR.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743046 I think someone said it on a podcast, but there is no one I can think of that I DON'T want to see face Necro Butcher. Mark Henry vs Necro Butcher - Yes Please Scott Steiner vs Necro Butcher - Oh my god... YES! Giant Baba vs Necro Butcher - The gods were cruel for denying us this joy Verne Gagne vs Necro Butcher - WHY NOT?! Necro Butcher vs MS-1 - That one isn't even funny it is just amazing sounding. HHH vs Necro Buthcer - I'd pay for that! So much fun. Lets just transport Necro to peak Memphis and Continental. Life isnt fair. Omg YES! Necro in BattlARTS, ECW, and Puerto Rico in '98-2000. Assuming that the footage would be available. That's an easy one, though. Necro as a lucha brawler speaks for itself, but I can never get past him in PR. I was just thinking that as I read. Necro in PR would be outstanding. Necro vs Sangre Chicana has been on my dream match list, but Necro in some of those bloody PR brawls (of which I really have a relatively limited knowledge) would be AMAZING. Necro/Colon vs The Sheephearders.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743047 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743048 La Fiera is a guy that I regret not putting on my list. He would definitely make it if I redid it today. Right now I think I've lost only 6 guys. YAMATO Akira Tozawa Shingo Takagi Super Dragon Mocho Cota Austin Aries Andre and Dragon Gate guys made my list.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743051 I had Andre at 53. I feel that's where he's going to land both for selfish reasons and as a good guesstimate considering his work in recent years has been revelatory to some. I know that until I had done the show with Steven there was absolutely no way I would have had him on the list, even with the Hansen match.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743052 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great. Oh Christ, not this hive mind bullshit again.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743053 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great. Okada is also a boring little shit.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743054 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great. I get the point that it's not exactly conducive to lengthy debate, but my point is that if someone finds a guy boring as shit (Inoki in this case, but really whoever) what more do you expect them to say exactly? As far as complaints go it's a pretty self-evident one, and a personal one. You can't force yourself to not find something boring if it bores you. And I don't think there's really a way to delve into it much more than that. It's like saying the opposite like "I get a kick out of this guy" or whatever. Sometimes you don't know why. He's just exciting. And sometimes they're just boring. On the hivemind shit, I dunno. I think Parv is nuts for shitting on Rey and whatever but I have no problem with him saying something like "I find flippydoes like Rey boring as shit". That's how he feels. Everybody finds something boring, I guarantee it. Again, I get that it's not good for debate, but not everything is. If all someone wants to say about Inoki is that he's boring, then fair enough. Move on to someone who wants to debate specifics.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743055 Rayo isn't seriously left to come is he? Not nominated. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/28835-rayo-de-jalisco-jr/ Oh shit.. he got one #100 vote. Where's Woof to fix the master list? Yeah, Rayo was my number 100.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743056 I predict Andre one slot lower than Triple H but 5 ahead of Inoki. How's that for going out on a limb?
April 15, 20169 yr Author comment_5743057 By the way, someone calling me out for calling Inoki boring, because it doesn't lead to discussion is hilarious when the person just made a one sentence statement about how they will freak out if Inoki is below Okada and Triple H.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743059 Inoki is boring although I stand by my statement in the Wrestlemania Live thread that Triple H is a completely inferior version of Inoki in a different environment.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743061 So I'm 19 soldiers down and can't say as though I'm surprised by any of them.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743062 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great.We get it, you like a certain tradition of NJ shooty workers. Jimmy likes Randy Orton and Sheamus. Matt likes Andre the Giant in 1989 Chad likes Prince Devitt and Al Perez Steven thinks Bret Hart is the 5th best worker of all time Dylan loves The Hardy Boyz and ECW Johnny thinks the WWE haven't put a foot wrong since the Montreal screw job Could go on and on. The idea of a hive mind has been debunked a lot of times.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743065 By the way, someone calling me out for calling Inoki boring, because it doesn't lead to discussion is hilarious when the person just made a one sentence statement about how they will freak out if Inoki is below Okada and Triple H.I didn't call you out mate. I asked you to defend your position because I was interested in it. And the supposed "calling you out" would have happened after you replied twice to me. Come on. And also saying I think wrestler x has more worth than two others is completely different than saying something specific about one wrestler in particular. To Jimmy: Sure, if he doesn't want to go further than that no one's going to force him to. But he hasn't even replied yet and you're already defending that hypothetical scenario. I'd say it's in our interest as a community to get people to go further than that as often as possible.
April 15, 20169 yr Author comment_5743067 By the way, someone calling me out for calling Inoki boring, because it doesn't lead to discussion is hilarious when the person just made a one sentence statement about how they will freak out if Inoki is below Okada and Triple H.I didn't call you out mate. I asked you to defend your position because I was interested in it. And the supposed "calling you out" would have happened after you replied twice to me. Come on. And also saying I think wrestler x has more worth than two others is completely different than saying something specific about one wrestler in particular. To Jimmy: Sure, if he doesn't want to go further than that no one's going to force him to. But he hasn't even replied yet and you're already defending that hypothetical scenario. I'd say it's in our interest as a community to get people to go further than that as often as possible. Sorry, not going to watch Inoki to actually come out with evidence. No desire to ever watch Inoki again.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743068 If there's one thing that should have debunked the hivemind for everyone it's hearing people's individual lists come out, because there's always at least one "You put WHO HOW HIGH??" and "You didn't rank HIM??" on every ballot that makes me think "How on earth did you sneak into PWO again?"Myself included.
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743070 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great. Johnny thinks the WWE haven't put a foot wrong since the Montreal screw job. That's not even remotely true, dum dum.
April 15, 20169 yr Author comment_5743071 I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed. It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great. Johnny thinks the WWE haven't put a foot wrong since the Montreal screw job. That's not even remotely true, dum dum. last thumbs down or in the middle WWE show?
April 15, 20169 yr comment_5743072 "That was a blast!" - Johnny's review for every PPV since the last century.
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