April 20, 20232 yr comment_6003152 6 hours ago, BigBadMick said: Some of my uncles moved to New York in the 60s. About 10 years ago, one of them was home and somehow during a chat with the whole family the subject veered towards wrestling. I was promptly pushed forward as the wrestling fan and he told me about watching Sammartino in the Garden in the 70s, but didn't like it after that when it became 'phony'. This is funny because in the 60s and 70s, people (wrestlers of other territories at least, maybe fans of those territories too) considered the WWWF style itself to be 'phony'. Some things never change, I guess
April 20, 20232 yr comment_6003155 16 hours ago, drokk said: My mom grew up in El Salvador and when I became a fan as a kid, she told me Mil Mascaras would regularly appear at shows in her neighborhood. I got more and more incredulous the older (and "smarter") I got. Eventually during a trip to my grandma's house she produced a photo of her and "Mil Mascaras" who seemed to be a good 100 lbs heavier and 6 inches shorter than the true article. I broke the truth to my mom, aunts, and uncles and surprisingly they weren't bothered - in their young minds they had seen the legendary Mil Mascaras and even the revelation that it was probably the butcher down the street did nothing to tarnish the memories. As an aside - are there any good resources for wrestling info in latin America? Aside from Titanes en el Ring from Argentina and Las Cholitas from Bolivia I haven't seen much online regarding the region. I seem to remember reading about Brazil having a scene in the 70s or 80s. There are quite a few sources. The only issue, of course, is almost none of it is in English so there's an intertwine of cultural as well as language barriers to the bigger, Western world over and above the foreignity of their wrestling style. For instance, Matt already mentioned that we're working on Panama via Segunda Caida and, from what I can tell, we're moving on uncharted territory pretty much. It's a little bit daunting, frankly, but latin America is filled with a kaleidoscope of rich history when it comes to wrestling. It's my hope that I can, little by little, help to unearth it to the rest of us. El Salvador, like Guatemala, has quite a lot of its history already mapped out by a few historians. I'd recommend starting here and here for Guatemala. As for El Salvador, there's a great summary of its history by Manuel Canadas (part 1 and part 2). The same website has a few other articles that might interest you. Here's another. Salvadorian lucha looks nuts. Here's Tony Jackson jumping from the third rope to perform his signature "tope mortal" on el Bucanero:
April 20, 20232 yr comment_6003158 35 minutes ago, Rah said: There are quite a few sources. The only issue, of course, is almost none of it is in English so there's an intertwine of cultural as well as language barriers to the bigger, Western world over and above the foreignity of their wrestling style. For instance, Matt already mentioned that we're working on Panama via Segunda Caida and, from what I can tell, we're moving on uncharted territory pretty much. It's a little bit daunting, frankly, but latin America is filled with a kaleidoscope of rich history when it comes to wrestling. It's my hope that I can, little by little, help to unearth it to the rest of us. El Salvador, like Guatemala, has quite a lot of its history already mapped out by a few historians. I'd recommend starting here and here for Guatemala. As for El Salvador, there's a great summary of its history by Manuel Canadas (part 1 and part 2). The same website has a few other articles that might interest you. Here's another. Salvadorian lucha looks nuts. Here's Tony Jackson jumping from the third rope to perform his signature "tope mortal" on el Bucanero: Posts like these remind me why I lurk here and nowhere else. Obviously, being fluent in spanish will give me an upper hand digging deeper but these are great starting points. Makes me think I should reach out to my uncle and ask if he remembers any of this stuff.
April 22, 20232 yr comment_6003202 Charly Arnolt (Charly Caruso in WWE) just outed herself as a transphobe and left ESPN for some Fox offshoot sports group. https://itrwrestling.com/news/former-wwe-talent-faces-social-media-backlash-over-new-career-choice/
April 22, 20232 yr comment_6003224 Anybody know what the deal with the 61 minute time limit matches in early 80s Japan? I always assumed that 60 minutes was the norm, so I'm intrigued about the significance of that additional minute.
April 22, 20232 yr comment_6003229 I believe it was because of a misunderstanding in translation dating from the beginning of Americans wrestling in Japan and it just stayed that way, kinda like the 60 feet 6 inches distance from the mound to home plate in baseball, which came from a misreading of a 0 as a 6 in the original write up
April 23, 20232 yr comment_6003264 Let's ask the board's resident Austrian. @Robert S, how do Gunther and Wanz fare when it comes to name recognition in Austria?
April 23, 20232 yr comment_6003284 6 hours ago, NintendoLogic said: Let's ask the board's resident Austrian. @Robert S, how do Gunther and Wanz fare when it comes to name recognition in Austria? Gunther? 0.0 (outside of the people watching WWE right now). Wanz was a pretty good self promoter. While CWA did not have any TV deal or anything and mostly ran in Vienna, Graz, Linz and a couple of shows in smaller towns, i.e. you only got "Catchen" when you lived in those cities, at least in the 1980ies Wanz was present quite a bit on TV like on game shows, variety shows etc. You have to realize that at that time there were only two Austrian TV channels. If you lived close to the German or Swiss border (like I do), you might have got three more German and/or a Swiss channel. So if you got on TV, that was a pretty big deal. I knew who Otto Wanz was long before I knew what professional wrestling was. He was using the tearing-apart-phone-book act and that's what I knew him as. Among the people let's say 45 and older I would assume he has a pretty good name recognition. The big name before him was Georg "Schurli" Blemenschütz who at least in Vienna might have been a bigger name than Wanz ever was. I don't have exact numbers but allegedly in the 1950s, he drew a lot of 10.000+ gates at the Heumarkt. Blemenschütz wrestled well past his peak (he wrestled until he was 66), towards the end of his career he was known as the "mummy from the Heumarkt".
April 23, 20232 yr comment_6003286 Absolutely loved the new Joe Rogan podcast with Flair. Never thought I'd hear a Giant Baba and Jumbo Tsuruta namedrop on JRE but here we are
April 24, 20232 yr comment_6003315 Wrestling has wedged itself so deep in my brain, that when I'm watching French soccer and every time they mention Grenoble my brain adds "....in the French Alps"
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003356 5 minutes ago, KawadaSmile said: What a pleasant thing to say, Chavo. Chavo has always been saltier than a bag of dollar shop chips. Remember his rant about John Cena's workrate a few years ago?
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003364 On 4/24/2023 at 6:13 AM, akira maeda said: Absolutely loved the new Joe Rogan podcast with Flair. Flair talks Vince with Joe Rogan on that podcast. "“When he was getting involved in scandals and there was girls that he paid off. I just wanted to say, duh! Duh! You have an 80-year-old savage who is built like a fucking gladiator. Gee, you think he fucks? You think Vince McMahon is doing that for hee-hees and haw-haws? No, of course he has some floosies on the side.” "He’s my hero. I judge people by how they treat me and he has treated me like…I’ve never had anyone treat me with more respect in this business. He’s a great guy. I don’t care what he does. He’s my hero.” Rape victim, floosie on the side, what's the difference hey Ric?
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003365 5 hours ago, KawadaSmile said: What a pleasant thing to say, Chavo. I could understand Chavo being miffed that Eddie/Rey is more of the association than Eddie/Chavo, but "Rey is lining his pockets" is the weirdest angle to take considering Rey is a bigger star than Eddie ever was. I would also imagine merch money goes to Eddie's estate, not to Rey.
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003374 Can imagine he's (been) having regrets about the egregious stuff they did in that period after Eddie's death and now feels bad at any mention of his uncle's name on television.
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003375 Chavo now says he didn't mean it and was " being a heel" adding " I still got it."
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003383 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alltimewrestling/all-time-wrestling-extreme-edition Here’s a link to a board game expansion that I am supporting. The expansion has RVD, Raven, Sabu, a created wrestler, and an exploding death match that you can play. Hope you guys check it out!
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003390 They should make a wrestling board game expansion to Monopoly where you run around the board buying up TV time slots and main event wrestlers' contracts and try to put the territories out of business.
April 25, 20232 yr comment_6003392 10 minutes ago, TheDuke said: They should make a wrestling board game expansion to Monopoly where you run around the board buying up TV time slots and main event wrestlers' contracts and try to put the territories out of business. Like Risk but with wrestling territories.
April 26, 20232 yr comment_6003400 Quintessential Australia part VIII Fan at Billy Corgan's travelling rock'n'wrestling show on Sunday: "PULL HIS ARSE HAIRS OUT!"
April 26, 20232 yr comment_6003447 Vince McMahon was the first and most successful Silicon Valley guy, in that he built his business by just racking up a lot of debt and hoping it would make money eventually.
April 26, 20232 yr comment_6003462 On 4/25/2023 at 9:51 AM, Johnny Sorrow said: Chavo now says he didn't mean it and was " being a heel" adding " I still got it." Which is the most gutless beta male but so typically pro wrestling response. "I worked you, bro" isn't as clever as they think it is.
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