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comment_4423326

My objections are with the Best Picture nominees, not any of the acting ones...

 

It's like they went out of their way to reject stuff that should have contended, like Narnia, and put in overrated shit that fits in with their politics (see Munich, Good Night And Good Luck, Bareback Mountain).

comment_4423454

Bareback Mountain

Clever.

 

:lol:

 

I don't know -- I can see where this post is coming from, but I think F-9/11 not being nominated last year should have dispelled any notion of the nominating and voting being politically-motivated.

 

And I didn't like Brokeback Mountain all that much, but it's far from the most political movie being nominated; in fact, it's one of the least. Crash is far more politically motivated.

comment_4423494

I haven't heard one person say Narnia is a Best Picture caliber film. In fact, most have said once you get past the amazing effects (which it did get nominated for) there's not much else.

 

Munich's got flak from the right and the left, so if anything else that's a sign of a good film if you get both sides upset at you.

 

I still wonder the motivations of people who bash Brokeback, it always seems to come back to "gay is icky".

comment_4423509

I'm not attempting to head down that route as much as making the indisputable point that Brokeback is getting pushed far harder than it deserves BECAUSE of the gay angle.

 

 

If this was a story about a man and a woman with a long-term clandestine affair without their spouses' knowledge, it wouldn't be getting pushed near as hard as it's getting pushed.

 

 

 

As for Munich, Spielberg sickened me with it because he went down the "vengeance is wrong" route and demonized the Israeli secret agents without really giving any insight into the Israeli athletes killed in Munich or showing what horrible people the Palestinians who slaughtered them were.

 

 

 

If he'd gone down the "This was a necessary action by the Israelis, but was handled in a piss-poor, fucked-up manner", I'd have had more respect for him because that is a thesis that could hold up to scrutiny.

comment_4423553

Y'all seem to be making my point for me... it's not the quality of the movie as much as the content, which happens to be aligned with Hollywood's politics and is not considered to be "mainstream Americana".

 

 

I will not dispute the quality of the film, as I feel that Lee is a good director and that Ledger and Glynnenhal are good actors, but it's getting more praise than it deserves because of the politics involved.

comment_4423667

I'm finding it hard to believe that Teke actually saw Munich. The message wasn't so much "vengeance is wrong", it was "this is the effects of vengeance" and how the life Bana got into was one he couldn't get out of. I don't think there was a judgment on either side of it, I think it was just saying "this is the way it is". If you get into a world that deals with lies, killing, spying, sabotage, backdoor deals, etc. it works both for you and against you.

 

The fact that they questioned the necessity of the assassinations, since they already hit their enemies camps and whatnot with military attacks and racked up a much bigger body count, was one of the better points of the film, IMO. It was done because it was personal, and that ended up effecting the Bana character in a profound and ultimately damaging way.

 

How they demonized one group and didn't show how "horrible" the terrosts were made me laugh. The attack on the athletes was done very graphically, how didn't that make them look horrible?

comment_4423755

I heard an interview with the screenwriter on NPR and he basically said what Rudo did, it was more about the effects of vengance, and how these are human beings rather than soul-less machines so what they do is going to have an effect on them.

 

The people with the biggest problem with Munich seem to be the ones who think that the Israeli/Palestinian side is always right and those that show the other side with even a hint of humanity must be making a political point.

comment_4424637

I'm just glad Crash got a Best Picture Nom. I don't know if Dillon was the best actor in the movie, but I'm glad that it was recognized in multiple categories.

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