Present company excluded, this is going to be the most annoying, entitled crowd in the history of wrestling. And that's saying something.

This is 20 minutes from where I live and yeah I'll probably go, but I'm going to feel like an outsider.

 

 

We should organize a PWO section somehow, maybe someone can order an entire row of seats?

I'm actually surprised more board communities don't organize meets for events in local areas. I've gone to a couple Beyond shows with a poster from elsewhere and it was a blast.

I feel like a PWO outing would be more appropriate for something like Negro Casas working an indy in California. Get some sunshine and see my GOAT. Somebody hook us up with the promoter so 20 of us can go backstage and bow down to him. Maybe hire a translator.

Edit: Never mind, don't want to be that guy...

I don't want to act like I'm superior to these people or anything self-indulgent like that. Just will likely have very different tastes from everyone there. I have to go for history's sake though, this is interesting.

Honestly, depending on the card and activities surrounding the event, I'd be intrigued on flying up there.

 

Listening to Matt Riddle on An Office & A Gentleman, Chuck Taylor asked Riddle if he think he (Taylor) could beat CM Punk in a fight and that for some reason made me think could be a good match for a show like this one.

I feel like a PWO outing would be more appropriate for something like Negro Casas working an indy in California. Get some sunshine and see my GOAT. Somebody hook us up with the promoter so 20 of us can go backstage and bow down to him. Maybe hire a translator.

 

I'm only elitist about people who call La Casita "La Magistral." That's it. Nothing else.

I don't want to act like I'm superior to these people or anything self-indulgent like that. Just will likely have very different tastes from everyone there. I have to go for history's sake though, this is interesting.

I never have anything in common with other fans when I go to any show. Just the way it is with some things.

I just really want to see the show be successful because I think that would be better for the health of the industry.

I mean, this show is kind of geared toward those kind of fans. It's not like fans trying to hijack a WWE show to piss off the company, this show is more or less being put on for them.

Putting a show for the fans. Crazy concept.

 

I just really want to see the show be successful because I think that would be better for the health of the industry.

 

This. It doesn't matter if I like the style or not, it's just a good thing for pro-wrestling if it's a success. More variety = good.

Exactly. I'm not a fan of The Young Bucks or Cody Rhodes but that doesn't matter because this show isn't about me.

Ditto. I went to the NJPW show in Sydney last month, and I felt supremely out of place in a sea of dorks wearing Bullet Club shirts (me being a dork in a normal shirt) but they were going nuts for the show and I felt genuinely happy for them that they have this and genuinely happy for the business that a bunch of indy workers can have this kind of reach now.

 

It was nice. This All In show will be nice too.

I don't want to act like I'm superior to these people or anything self-indulgent like that. Just will likely have very different tastes from everyone there. I have to go for history's sake though, this is interesting.

 

No, I get it. If this was just a Young Bucks/Cody show without any of the hype to draw a huge crowd, I wouldn't be going either. Does the possibility of other big names working do anything for you? Jericho? Any New Japan talent?

 

Who's to say a GWE contender like Casas won't be booked?

 

I don't want to act like I'm superior to these people or anything self-indulgent like that. Just will likely have very different tastes from everyone there. I have to go for history's sake though, this is interesting.

 

No, I get it. If this was just a Young Bucks/Cody show without any of the hype to draw a huge crowd, I wouldn't be going either. Does the possibility of other big names working do anything for you? Jericho? Any New Japan talent?

 

Who's to say a GWE contender like Casas won't be booked?

 

I mean if Casas is booked I'm getting to the venue at 10am and standing at the entrance to the arena so I can properly bow down to him as he walks by.

I do feel that the criticism of the fanbase who eats that stuff up is valid, though. It's insulated to the point where it can be downright cultish when criticism comes around. I don't care who you're a fan of, but if you can't handle the heat, that's on you. There's a big time hive mind vibe to these guys.

I'm actually surprised more board communities don't organize meets for events in local areas. I've gone to a couple Beyond shows with a poster from elsewhere and it was a blast.

I have met up with Internet friends and gone to shows in Osaka a few times over the years. It has ALWAYS been enjoyable at the very least. More often than not we ended up having a few drinks and hanging out all day having an absolute blast. I absolutely recommend it. If you get along on the internet odds are very good you'd enjoy hanging out in real life.

I do feel that the criticism of the fanbase who eats that stuff up is valid, though. It's insulated to the point where it can be downright cultish when criticism comes around. I don't care who you're a fan of, but if you can't handle the heat, that's on you. There's a big time hive mind vibe to these guys.

Is this anything new for "cult" level entertainment, though? Just in my time as a fan there's been this type of criticism thrown at Mutants and ROHbots, so why should today's hottest non-WWE act be different?

I view it as win/win.

If it does well, wrestling gets a boost and has a shot at moving on to a better style.

If it does poorly, Cody and the Bucks are taken down a peg.

Or it could be in the middle and Cody and the Bucks spin it as a success.

I dont fucking get how any wrestling fan wants this to fail on any level. Even if you weirdly want people who are doing nothing but succeeding taken down a peg for no sane reason.

I definitely do not want it to fail. I am also definitely wary of the byproduct of this.

I definitely do not want it to fail. I am also definitely wary of the byproduct of this.

what by-product?

I dont fucking get how any wrestling fan wants this to fail on any level. Even if you weirdly want people who are doing nothing but succeeding taken down a peg for no sane reason.

Surely with your sunny disposition, you understand trying to find the good in a bad situation.

 

Nobody wants it to fail, which it will not get near ten thousand. But it will do a very strong number for an indy show. If it bombs, which is less likely than then getting ten thousand. At least people will not talk about the fake indy boom as a talking point and the Bucks will be humbled. its not good but in our current world you piss in a Mr Coffee and pray for Taster's Choice.

What. The. Fuck. What's wrong about pro-wrestler getting over and making money without having to be slurped into the WWE machine ? Like it or not, the Bucks (and Cody right now) are proving you can be a pro-wrestler, get over, make a living, work abroad, without dealing with the WWE bullshit. They demonstrate you can have a "business model" that's working in today's context where there's only one major mainstream company. Yeah, let's humble them because they do "too much superkix and movez", or something.

 

Yeah, I'm with Johnny on this one (shit happens). I have no earthly idea why anyone would want this to fail, *especially* for ridiculous stylistic tastes.

You are being intentionally obtuse. First step of shitty arguing is making up motives for the opponent.

If someone wanted to see the Bucks taken down a peg. It would be strictly because of their attitude and being arrogant vanity searching asses. Not because they still can't do a good superkick.

Nobody wants their vanity project to fail. Since it would hurt more people in wrestling than just the Bucks, Cody and dick flipper.